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re: Leaked Chinese govt documents detail the mass detention of over 1 million uighurs

Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:50 pm to
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Communism isn't inherently evil like Nazism is. The problem with communism is that every time someone tries to implement it, we get dictatorships like the USSR and North Korea. As someone who had to read The Communist Manifesto in college I never once thought that these ideas were born out of hatred or evil unlike Nazism. The ideas of total communism are ridiculous at best but not initially evil.


You need to go back and find every history teacher and/or professors you’ve studied under and slap the ever loving shite out of them for failing you so miserably.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:50 pm to
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As someone who had to read The Communist Manifesto in college


Programming downloaded.

Communism.exe
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:52 pm to
Did you miss where I said I wasn't defending communism? The creation of communism was built on nativity while the roots of Nazism are directly tied to hatred.

Communism biggest flaw is the most obvious one. When it's adopted it leads to dictatorships
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Communism isn't inherently evil like Nazism is. The problem with communism is that every time someone tries to implement it, we get dictatorships like the USSR and North Korea. As someone who had to read The Communist Manifesto in college I never once thought that these ideas were born out of hatred or evil unlike Nazism. The ideas of total communism are ridiculous at best but not initially evil.



lmao yeah, using violence to create revolution because you perceive others' belongings to be yours is not inherently evil at all

and that's what happens BEFORE the dictatorship comes into play.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:53 pm to
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Programming downloaded

You can read something and not agree with it you know.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:53 pm to
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I wasn't defending communism


He says, as he constantly argues for communism
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56302 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:54 pm to
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But go on and sing those ChiCom praises

what the frick?
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Christian Post
Ah. Moving along now.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:54 pm to
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Did you miss where I said I wasn't defending communism? The creation of communism was built on nativity while the roots of Nazism are directly tied to hatred.

Communism biggest flaw is the most obvious one. When it's adopted it leads to dictatorships
Hatred, or what I really suspect you mean is racism, isn’t the only source of evil. The ideas of communism.....it’s core principles...are inherently evil.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49256 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:55 pm to
I never once argued for it in fact I've stated that every time it's been implemented has been a tremendous failure leading to bloody dictatorships
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:55 pm to
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quote:

Christian Post


Ah. Moving along now.


"I don't like the source, so all of those Christians in camps must be lying"

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64485 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:55 pm to
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Did you miss where I said I wasn't defending communism? The creation of communism was built on nativity while the roots of Nazism are directly tied to hatred.

Communism biggest flaw is the most obvious one. When it's adopted it leads to dictatorships



Sorry I must have missed you “not” defending communism because I was too busy reading where you said it wasn’t evil.

As for the roots of Nazism, they’re to be found in early 20th Century European Socialism. You seriously need to crack open a lot of books.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:56 pm to
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You can read something and not agree with it you know.


I'm gonna bet a million dollars your uni professors didn't put Mein Kampf on your reading list.

Nazism is evil garbage. And yet, you didn't have it similarly shoved down your proggie throat in college as you did communism.

Gee, interesting.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18644 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:56 pm to
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I never once argued for it in fact I've stated that every time it's been implemented has been a tremendous failure leading to bloody dictatorships


Just because you haven't argued for it doesn't mean you aren't defending evil.

The blood didn't start with the dictatorship, it started with the bloody revolutions born out of coveting others' possessions.

That is evil
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 7:56 pm to
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The problem with communism is that every time someone tries to implement it, we get dictatorships like the USSR and North Korea.


Not really. After the various failures of workers movements during the fin de siecle, and splintering of leftist movements into distinct camps, Lenin decided that the proletariat revolution needed to be led by a group called the vanguard of the revolution, who would mold the dictatorship of the proletariat into a dictatorship by the few. Explicit dictatorship is a requirement for both Marxism and Marxist-Leninism. The other communist option is anarcho-communism, which hasn't really been tried on a large scale. There are other types of socialist ideologies who take their point of departure from different sources, and thus reject the explicit dictatorship angle. It's how both Britain and France had socialists in power for portions of the post-war era.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:00 pm to
Exactly. Dawgfan doesn't understand that marxist communism DEMANDS authoritarianism. It is by definition, a complete suppression of individuals to "favor" the collective.

It is evil
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:00 pm to
And this is who the NBA was cowarding down to.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:06 pm to
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encourage China to be a modern day nazi Germany
.

They don't need any encouragement...
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:07 pm to
Date of last major genocide perpetrated by a Christian regime?

Yeah, now lets check those same facts for communist pogroms.

This is too easy.
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:10 pm to
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allow/encourage China to be a modern day nazi Germany.


You realize today's china is a continuance of Maoist communist china.

Please research mao's great leap forward. Hitler's death toll is CHILD'S PLAY in comparison.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18665 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:12 pm to
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China isn't going to be overrun like Europe is being, and what the US will someday be.


I love how the average person doesn’t realize how ethnically diverse China is as a country. There are quite a few very distinct ethnic minorities that are native to China. Most people assume that all Chinese are Han.
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