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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:39 am to Coeur du Tigre
This makes my weekend...
Video of explosion, Gurtiev killed while cruising for rentbois?
Video of aftermath.
Photo of him before, when he was in one piece. (Don't they have tailors in Russia?)
Meanwhile, back in Ukraine...
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Russian media report that Zaur Gurtiev, a major in the Russian Armed Forces and Deputy Head of Stavropol’s city administration, has been blown up.
Gurtiev was involved in war crimes committed by Russian forces during the fights for Mariupol. He coordinated airstrikes on the city. These strikes destroyed the Drama Theater and killed thousands of civilians.
At the time of his death, he was serving as the deputy mayor.
Video of explosion, Gurtiev killed while cruising for rentbois?
Video of aftermath.
Photo of him before, when he was in one piece. (Don't they have tailors in Russia?)
Meanwhile, back in Ukraine...
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:53 am to Coeur du Tigre
This from a leader that knows how to handle Russians - escalate, escalate, escalate. Don't stop until your boot is on their throats and then keep it there. Forever.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:02 am to Coeur du Tigre
Those guys dress like Sir Winston
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:19 am to Coeur du Tigre
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As early as 2025, Ukraine will produce a lot of long-range weapons, in which Germany will invest, — Ministry of Defense
The first weapons for striking Russia will be ready in a few weeks!
LINK
Posted on 5/29/25 at 5:20 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:07 am to No Colors
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That's basically what it is.....it's either OK to invade your neighbor and claim a big piece of his territory....or it's not.
And if it's not ok, then what are we gonna do about it. Biden saying: We will do whatever it takes to keep Russia from winning....but then not giving HIMARS for a year. Etc etc etc.
Johnson saying: I'm not sending more money to Ukraine. And then going to Mar a lago for meetings and then approving like $65 billion in new arms.
We should either support Ukraine. Or not.
The only thing that stirs my emotions at all is the politics of it.
All of the politics of it are part of the reason why I don't support continuing to fund them.
The people with the most information on this situation just aren't taking it seriously. They don't honestly believe Putin is an imperialist, or Hitler, or whatever else. If they did you wouldn't have those Biden and Johnson examples you gave.
And it's not about "it's either ok to invade a neighbor, or it's not" either. If this were a couple of African countries with no resources invading each other we would make a few statements on TV about it and you would barely hear about it on the news again until it was over. We (shockingly) still aren't serious as a civilization about moving past land grabs via warfare, we are just serious about it when it's close to our door or involves someone we like (or don't like). We really aren't historically that far off from when this kind of thing was pretty common, so I'll concede that we've gotten much better about it at least.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:09 am to trinidadtiger
ISW Update May 28 2025
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Key Takeaways:
Western insider reporting about Kremlin demands to end the war in Ukraine continues to align with repeated public statements from Kremlin officials outlining Russia's demands, indicating that Russia's goal of Ukrainian capitulation and destruction of NATO remains unchanged.
Putin reportedly maintains his demand that Ukraine cede all of the four oblasts that Russia has illegally annexed but not fully occupied, even as Kremlin officials have signaled that Russia has territorial ambitions beyond these four oblasts.
Putin continues to demonstrate his willingness to achieve his war aims militarily through a prolonged war in Ukraine during which Russian forces would continue to only make gradual, creeping advances.
The Kremlin continues to promote its long-standing false narratives that the threat of NATO expansion forced Russia to invade Ukraine in 2022, and that NATO continues to threaten Russia's security.
The Kremlin continues to promote Russian President Vladimir Putin's envisioned Eurasian security architecture — a Russian-led bloc aimed at countering the West and NATO.
Russia and Belarus reduced the scope of the September 2025 Zapad-2025 joint Russian-Belarussian military exercise and relocated the main maneuver away from Belarus's western borders, likely to promote a veneer of cooperation and distract from Russia's limited military capacity outside of the Ukraine theater.
Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to forward an unofficial Russian ideology formulated on Russian nationalism and to try to unify Russian society in support of Russia's war in Ukraine.
Ukrainian forces conducted a series of long-range drone strikes targeting Russia's defense industrial base (DIB) on May 27 and 28.
Ukraine’s Western allies continue to provide military aid to Ukraine.
Ukrainian authorities recently identified a Russian servicemember responsible for the execution of two Ukrainian prisoners of war (POW) in January 2025.
Russian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast and near Chasiv Yar, Toretsk, Pokrovsk, and Velyka Novosilka.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:21 am to VolSquatch
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We (shockingly) still aren't serious as a civilization about moving past land grabs via warfare
List for me the countries -- including ones in Africa -- who have gained land using military force since the end of WW2.
I'll save you the time:
Koreas (swapped some territory along the DMZ)
Israel: The Golan Heights
Russia: Georgia and Ukraine
Note that the international community does not and will not ever recognize the above occupations. It's simply against international law.
The last time it was tried bigly was when Iraq tried to wipe Kuwait off the map. That turned into a very big deal.
The international community has done a damn fine job of preventing land grabs.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:33 am to John Barron
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honestly don't care about Russia.
You were forwarding tweets from guys celebrating when a Russian set some sort of points record in the NHL.... so you don't care about Russia? You're just a big hockey fan. Got it.
Dude you link 80 posts a day that all come from paid Russian disinformation trolls. Just stop with your protests about who you are and what you do, and why. We already know.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:51 am to Darth_Vader
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I can understand having an academic interest in this war
I agree with you 100% and this is why I've followed the war fairly closely. Less so now than in the opening couple of years before it devolved into a stalemate.
I'm currently reading a good book called The Battle of the Tanks, Kursk 1943 by Lloyd Clark. Darth, if you haven't read this one, I think you'd enjoy it.
https://a.co/d/6uzsFjE
Posted on 5/29/25 at 7:26 am to Coeur du Tigre
Whoop, there it is...
He liked the rough trade.
Kissing icons to the end -
Rot in Hell.
He liked the rough trade.
Kissing icons to the end -
Rot in Hell.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:21 am to No Colors
You ignored my full quote where I said we have gotten better about it, likely on purpose I'd imagine, but either way I'll present some more instances.
Even that list is missing a few examples IIRC.
The US had pretty significant interests in Kuwait when it was invaded, so that reinforces my point that we take it seriously when its a country we care about being invaded or a country we don't like is doing the invading. In that particular case it happened to be both.
If you're going to be snarky at least be literate about the subject next time.
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Russia ? Ukraine (2014–present)
Crimea annexed in 2014.
Parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia occupied since 2022.
Turkey ? Cyprus (1974)
Turkey invaded and took control of Northern Cyprus after a coup.
Declared independent, but only recognized by Turkey.
Russia (USSR) ? Finland (1947)
USSR retained Karelia and other areas taken in the Winter War and WWII, confirmed by peace treaties.
Soviet Union ? Japan (1945–present)
USSR seized the Kuril Islands from Japan at the end of WWII.
Russia still holds them; Japan claims them.
Israel ? Egypt, Jordan, Syria (1967)
Golan Heights (from Syria) – still occupied and annexed by Israel.
West Bank (from Jordan) – occupied, partial control via Israeli settlements and security.
Gaza Strip (from Egypt) – occupied, later evacuated in 2005.
Sinai Peninsula (from Egypt) – taken in 1967, returned in 1982 via peace treaty.
Iraq ? Kuwait (1990)
Iraq invaded and annexed Kuwait.
Reversed in 1991 by U.S.-led coalition.
Turkey ? Syria (2016–present)
Turkey has taken and controls several buffer zones in northern Syria.
Still de facto Turkish zones but not formally annexed.
China ? India (1962)
China took Aksai Chin, claimed by India.
Still controlled by China.
Vietnam ? Cambodia (1978)
Vietnam invaded Cambodia and installed a friendly regime.
Occupied Cambodian territory, but withdrew by 1989.
Short-term occupation, not annexation.
China ? Tibet (1950–51)
China invaded and incorporated Tibet into the PRC.
Often treated as internal by China, but viewed internationally as a military takeover.
Morocco ? Western Sahara (1975)
Morocco annexed most of Western Sahara after Spain left.
Territory is disputed, with partial control by the Polisario Front.
UK ? Argentina (1982)
In the Falklands War, Argentina invaded.
UK repelled the invasion and retained control of the Falkland Islands.
Even that list is missing a few examples IIRC.
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The last time it was tried bigly was when Iraq tried to wipe Kuwait off the map. That turned into a very big deal.
The US had pretty significant interests in Kuwait when it was invaded, so that reinforces my point that we take it seriously when its a country we care about being invaded or a country we don't like is doing the invading. In that particular case it happened to be both.
If you're going to be snarky at least be literate about the subject next time.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:25 am to Darth_Vader
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It really boggles my mind how passionately the war between Russia and Ukraine has enflamed so many here in America. I dare say the number of Americans who have even the most tangential connection to either country is infinitesimally small. I just don’t get it. I can understand having an academic interest in this war. But to become emotionally involved, either pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine seems patently absurd.
This is coming from people who were scared out of their minds by Russia growing up. They hate them and always will. I get it. Its not a great reason to spend billions of dollars though.
There are a couple here who are obviously Ukrainian or at least have some connection, but for most of them Ukraine is just the equivalent of cheering for a team because they are playing your team's rival that day.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:34 am to Chromdome35
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I agree with you 100% and this is why I've followed the war fairly closely. Less so now than in the opening couple of years before it devolved into a stalemate.
Yeah. That’s why I’m trying to find out more about what’s going on around Sumy. This might be the first real movement this war has seen since the abortive Ukrainian offensive from a couple years ago. Then again, it may be another nothing burger.
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I'm currently reading a good book called The Battle of the Tanks, Kursk 1943 by Lloyd Clark. Darth, if you haven't read this one, I think you'd enjoy it.
Holy shite! Small world! I’m halfway though this book right now.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:43 am to VolSquatch
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This is coming from people who were scared out of their minds by Russia growing up. They hate them and always will. I get it. Its not a great reason to spend billions of dollars though.
I’m one of those people. I remember having “bomb drills” in 1st grade in the 70s. I remember watching the made for TV movie “The Day After” when I was 13. I remember enlisting and being shipped to Germany in the late 80s with the knowledge that the balloon could go up at any moment and if it did, that I’d be vaporized in minutes. Every bit of my training was on how to kill Russians, especially Russian tanks and armored vehicles. And to this day, I still don’t trust or even like Russia in the slightest.
But even with that, I still have the ability to see this war has little to no impact on us here in the US.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:46 am to Darth_Vader
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But even with that, I still have the ability to see this war has little to no impact on us here in the US.
IMO for most people logic and emotions bleed together and obscure one another.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:54 am to VolSquatch
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IMO for most people logic and emotions bleed together and obscure one another.
Sad but true. As a society, we allow our emotions to drive us when logic would serve us far better.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:06 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:10 am to John Barron
Cope De Tiger is melting.That means bad news for Ukraine 
Posted on 5/29/25 at 9:12 am to John Barron
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