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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/22/25 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 4:54 pm to
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That is why you hate Twitter so much because you can't Parrot your Lies


You didn't respond to my claims about Lukashenko, or the one about Russian state media. Sad! Also I like Twitter just fine, but your spamming is annoying. The thread was fine before you started doing that.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:05 pm to
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You didn't respond to my claims about Lukashenko, or the one about Russian state media. Sad!


Last time I checked Lukashenko and Russian Media is not Russian Officials. Not to mention February 5th comes before February 6 and February 28th. So what you posted is irrelevant to the fact that General Mark Milley was the first one to say " Kiev in 3 Days" not Russian Generals or Putin like you NAFO trolls claim. This is why Twitter is Great! I get to fact check you NAFO Trolls. I am Quality Control around here

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Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:07 pm to
You didn't even look at the other link lol. You have shite for brains.

Again, all evidence points to the Russians not planning for a very long operation. It sucks that your Russian brothers were so incompetent they couldn't finish what they started. Sad!
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:34 pm to
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You didn't even look at the other link lol. You have shite for brains.


Incorrect. You are Projecting Comrade. What does a Yahoo article about some nonsense about a "Way Back Machine finding articles on February 26th" have to do with Russian Generals or Putin claiming "Kiev in 3 days". The amount of Cognitive Dissonance you are displaying after seeing proof General Milley was the originator of the "Kiev in 3 days" propaganda shows your Intentional Deception.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:35 pm to
Holy shite, you didn't understand the link. You are desperately stupid, much like your Russian brethren who are bogged down in Ukraine despite having an advantage in materiel, manpower and resources. Sad!
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:41 pm to
Fortunately Milley isn't around in a position of power anymore.

I looked into the forces Ukraine had at hand and in reserve and I didn't think Russia was going to walk over them in a few days or a couple of weeks.

The Russians sent around 1000 pieces of armor in three prongs toward Kiev. The ground was too soft and they all moved over to one paved road creating a 30 mile traffic jam while they were picked off Javelins, artillery, and early drone attacks.

Milley was wrong. The Russians got mauled.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:42 pm to
And they didn't establish air superiority. That is the most curious element of the original operation to me. It is completely unlike how the US would operate.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:45 pm to
Former Ukrainian General Zaluzhny with some cold hard reality for the NAFO Trolls


"Ukraine should not expect a return to the 1991 borders. Russia has the resources to continue the war, according to a statement by Valerii Zaluzhnyi at the Security Export: Ukrainian Weapons in the World forum.

'I hope that there are no more people in this room who still believe in some kind of miracle or wonder — in a white swan that will bring peace to Ukraine, restore the 1991 or 2022 borders, and bring great happiness afterward,' Zaluzhnyi said.

'In my personal opinion, as long as the enemy has the resources, the strength, and the means to strike our territory and attempt localized offensive actions, they will continue to do so.'

According to him, Russia’s ability to wage war will primarily depend on its access to resources. He noted that since the end of 2023, Russia has been fighting a war of attrition.

Zaluzhnyi believes that victory in the war is only possible by completely destroying Russia’s ability to wage it.

'I mean the destruction of its military-economic potential. Under our current conditions — with an enormous shortage of human resources and the catastrophic economic situation we’re facing — we can only talk about a high-tech war of survival. One that uses minimal human resources and minimal economic means to achieve maximum effect. Ukraine is simply incapable of fighting any other kind of war given its demographic and economic realities, and we shouldn’t even entertain that thought,' he said."



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This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:59 pm to
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Certainly, but most people predicted a swift conclusion to the war. 6-8 weeks or thereabouts


The conversation wasn't about what most people expected, it was what Russia planned.

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That’s not quite correct Ukraine had two major counterattacks that worked. One that pushed the Russians out of Kherson City and the other out of Kharkiv. Then the Ukes had a successful run in Kursk that took advantage of a poor fixed Russian defense.


Kursk was essentially undefended on that part of the line because Russia didn't think Ukraine would actually go into Russia.

The other two yes were successful, and quite early on in the war. But if Russia were flying by the seat of the their pants by that point as some suggest you'd have a lot more than 2 examples
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:16 pm to
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But if Russia were flying by the seat of the their pants by that point as some suggest you'd have a lot more than 2 examples


But all three of those examples are from separate theaters, with the Kharkiv being the Eastern Front, Kherson being the Southern Front and the Kursk operation an extension of the Northern Front, arguably. In the strategic view, those are the major battlespaces. The fact that their attack collapsed along two fronts is an indication of something going on in either the planning or execution phase of those operations but we likely won't have a definitive answer until well after the war.

Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:19 pm to
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You have shite for brains.


You're arguing with a paid Russian troll farm bot. Notice how he posts at all hours of the day and night? It's not like it's even one person. It's a persona with AI enhanced language capabilities.

Don't waste your time.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:29 pm to
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It's a persona with AI enhanced language capabilities




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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:36 pm to
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:39 pm to
Damn he's smoking that good stuff.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:41 pm to
Russia airborne forces which landed at an airbase just outside of Kyiv had packed dress uniforms for their victory parade.
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:17 pm to
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The other two yes were successful, and quite early on in the war. But if Russia were flying by the seat of the their pants by that point as some suggest you'd have a lot more than 2 examples


I said you weren’t quite correct. I never said you weren’t correct at all.

Those were big reversals by the Ukes and were several months apart. They were on two separate fronts and each caught Russia unprepared.
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