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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:26 am to John Barron
Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:26 am to John Barron
Not good. Ukraine Manpower issues are getting worse
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:36 am to John Barron
The Kremlin has said that what the newly signed minerals deal between Ukraine and Washington does is effectively force Kiev to pay for all future military aid.
"Trump has broken the Kyiv regime to the point where they will have to pay for U.S. aid with mineral resources," Medvedev, a former Russian president and current deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, stated on Telegram.
"Now they will have to pay for military supplies with the national wealth of a disappearing country," he said of the Ukrainians."
"Trump has broken the Kyiv regime to the point where they will have to pay for U.S. aid with mineral resources," Medvedev, a former Russian president and current deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, stated on Telegram.
"Now they will have to pay for military supplies with the national wealth of a disappearing country," he said of the Ukrainians."
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/1/25 at 9:45 am to John Barron
SUMMARY OF THE U.S.-UKRAINE INVESTMENT AGREEMENT
What was actually signed — not just what Ukrainian officials posted online
GENERAL PROVISIONS
Creation of a U.S.-Ukraine Investment Fund
- A joint investment vehicle will be established.
- The U.S. will be represented by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
- Ukraine will be represented by its State Agency for Public-Private Partnership Support.
- The fund will focus on Ukraine’s reconstruction, with priority sectors including natural resource extraction (oil, gas, metals) and infrastructure.
Funding Contributions
- Ukraine will contribute 50% of royalties and license fees from all new natural resource licenses. These will be directed into a dedicated Ukrainian state fund, then transferred to the joint fund.
- The U.S. will contribute direct funding, which may also include the value of U.S. military aid (weapons, equipment, etc.) as part of its "financial contribution."
Tax and Financial Exemptions
- All fund operations, contributions, and profits will be exempt from Ukrainian taxes.
- The U.S. will grant similar exemptions for the Ukrainian side on profits earned within Ukraine.
Currency Conversion and Capital Transfer
- Ukraine guarantees free conversion of hryvnia to USD and unrestricted capital transfers abroad.
- In the event of a financial crisis, Ukraine may impose restrictions—but only temporarily and with U.S. approval. Any losses incurred by the fund due to such measures must be compensated by Ukraine.
Investment Rights
- Ukraine must include provisions in new natural resource licenses requiring investors to notify and negotiate with the fund.
- Similar requirements apply to large infrastructure projects.
Preferential Purchase Rights
- The fund (i.e., the U.S.) gets first rights to buy Ukrainian-produced resources like gas, oil, and rare earth metals.
- Ukraine is obliged to ensure no third country or company receives better terms.
Legal Supremacy of the Agreement
The deal takes precedence over Ukrainian domestic law.
- Ukraine cannot pass legislation that worsens the fund’s position, nor can it use its own laws to justify non-compliance.
EU Integration Clause
- If future obligations to the EU conflict with this agreement, Ukraine must negotiate amendments with the U.S.
Duration
The agreement comes into effect after ratification by Ukraine’s parliament and remains valid indefinitely, unless both parties agree to terminate it.
RISKS AND CONCERNS FOR UKRAINE
Loss of National Revenue
- Half of all future income from new resource licenses will be diverted to the fund—cutting deeply into long-term state revenue.
Reduced Sovereignty Over Natural Resources
- Priority rights granted to the fund mean Ukraine may have limited freedom in choosing investors and negotiating deals.
Limited Financial Independence
- Ukraine must guarantee unrestricted capital transfers and even compensate the fund for losses during economic instability.
Legal Limitations and U.S. Dominance
- Ukrainian legislation is subordinated to this agreement, significantly curtailing domestic regulatory control over strategic sectors.
Military Aid as “Investment”
- It remains unclear whether U.S. military aid (including arms purchases by Ukraine) is being counted as a U.S. contribution to the fund—a potential loophole.
No Expiry Clause
- The agreement has no built-in expiration date and offers no clear process for unilateral amendment.
No Security Guarantees
- Despite the scale and strategic nature of the agreement, there are no binding security assurances for Ukraine included in the text.
Bottom line:
This agreement gives the U.S. significant control over Ukraine’s postwar economy—especially in the resource and infrastructure sectors—while offering Kiev limited financial autonomy and no guarantees of military protection. Much of what Ukrainian officials like Shmyhal and Svyrydenko posted online is not reflected in the actual signed text.
What was actually signed — not just what Ukrainian officials posted online
GENERAL PROVISIONS
Creation of a U.S.-Ukraine Investment Fund
- A joint investment vehicle will be established.
- The U.S. will be represented by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).
- Ukraine will be represented by its State Agency for Public-Private Partnership Support.
- The fund will focus on Ukraine’s reconstruction, with priority sectors including natural resource extraction (oil, gas, metals) and infrastructure.
Funding Contributions
- Ukraine will contribute 50% of royalties and license fees from all new natural resource licenses. These will be directed into a dedicated Ukrainian state fund, then transferred to the joint fund.
- The U.S. will contribute direct funding, which may also include the value of U.S. military aid (weapons, equipment, etc.) as part of its "financial contribution."
Tax and Financial Exemptions
- All fund operations, contributions, and profits will be exempt from Ukrainian taxes.
- The U.S. will grant similar exemptions for the Ukrainian side on profits earned within Ukraine.
Currency Conversion and Capital Transfer
- Ukraine guarantees free conversion of hryvnia to USD and unrestricted capital transfers abroad.
- In the event of a financial crisis, Ukraine may impose restrictions—but only temporarily and with U.S. approval. Any losses incurred by the fund due to such measures must be compensated by Ukraine.
Investment Rights
- Ukraine must include provisions in new natural resource licenses requiring investors to notify and negotiate with the fund.
- Similar requirements apply to large infrastructure projects.
Preferential Purchase Rights
- The fund (i.e., the U.S.) gets first rights to buy Ukrainian-produced resources like gas, oil, and rare earth metals.
- Ukraine is obliged to ensure no third country or company receives better terms.
Legal Supremacy of the Agreement
The deal takes precedence over Ukrainian domestic law.
- Ukraine cannot pass legislation that worsens the fund’s position, nor can it use its own laws to justify non-compliance.
EU Integration Clause
- If future obligations to the EU conflict with this agreement, Ukraine must negotiate amendments with the U.S.
Duration
The agreement comes into effect after ratification by Ukraine’s parliament and remains valid indefinitely, unless both parties agree to terminate it.
RISKS AND CONCERNS FOR UKRAINE
Loss of National Revenue
- Half of all future income from new resource licenses will be diverted to the fund—cutting deeply into long-term state revenue.
Reduced Sovereignty Over Natural Resources
- Priority rights granted to the fund mean Ukraine may have limited freedom in choosing investors and negotiating deals.
Limited Financial Independence
- Ukraine must guarantee unrestricted capital transfers and even compensate the fund for losses during economic instability.
Legal Limitations and U.S. Dominance
- Ukrainian legislation is subordinated to this agreement, significantly curtailing domestic regulatory control over strategic sectors.
Military Aid as “Investment”
- It remains unclear whether U.S. military aid (including arms purchases by Ukraine) is being counted as a U.S. contribution to the fund—a potential loophole.
No Expiry Clause
- The agreement has no built-in expiration date and offers no clear process for unilateral amendment.
No Security Guarantees
- Despite the scale and strategic nature of the agreement, there are no binding security assurances for Ukraine included in the text.
Bottom line:
This agreement gives the U.S. significant control over Ukraine’s postwar economy—especially in the resource and infrastructure sectors—while offering Kiev limited financial autonomy and no guarantees of military protection. Much of what Ukrainian officials like Shmyhal and Svyrydenko posted online is not reflected in the actual signed text.
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:05 am to John Barron
All orchestrated by the Global Elites vis using Putin and Trump to pull it off so they can make billions, right?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:10 am to doubleb
No time to shite in the street. Got to firehouse Americans and try to bend their reality to Russian schemes.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:29 am to John Barron
Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:36 am to John Barron
Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:58 am to John Barron
Shithole nations connected by road. Amazing
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:17 am to John Barron
Putin is really doubling down on the Russia -- North Korea -- Iran -- Venezuela axis of influence. Seems like a natural fit.
Theyre all run by autocratic dictators who use the people and resources of their countries to enrich themselves and further cement their grip on power.
Theyre basically Murder Inc crime syndicate that's turning into a multi generational family business.
You want to talk about Global Elites? These guys are the very definition of the term. North Korea is literally the blueprint. Putin strengthening ties and taking notes on how to hand this off to his children.
Theyre all run by autocratic dictators who use the people and resources of their countries to enrich themselves and further cement their grip on power.
Theyre basically Murder Inc crime syndicate that's turning into a multi generational family business.
You want to talk about Global Elites? These guys are the very definition of the term. North Korea is literally the blueprint. Putin strengthening ties and taking notes on how to hand this off to his children.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:38 am to John Barron
Ukraine so desperate for warm bodies they are about to mobilize health care workers
Ukraine prepares to mobilized fdpctors and nurses!
The Ministry of Health has begun preparing lists of medical workers whose mobilization-blocks will be lifted at the request of the Ministry of Defense.
We are talking about those specialists who are currently needed in the army. Although at the beginning of the year the government announced the possibility of blocking up to 100% of medical personnel, a mechanism was simultaneously approved that allows mobilizing even those who are under protection.
Now this mechanism has been used. At first - partially, and then everything depends on the needs of the front.
Thus, medical workers who were "irreplaceable" in hospitals "yesterday" will "tomorrow" find themselves on the contact line.
Ukraine prepares to mobilized fdpctors and nurses!
The Ministry of Health has begun preparing lists of medical workers whose mobilization-blocks will be lifted at the request of the Ministry of Defense.
We are talking about those specialists who are currently needed in the army. Although at the beginning of the year the government announced the possibility of blocking up to 100% of medical personnel, a mechanism was simultaneously approved that allows mobilizing even those who are under protection.
Now this mechanism has been used. At first - partially, and then everything depends on the needs of the front.
Thus, medical workers who were "irreplaceable" in hospitals "yesterday" will "tomorrow" find themselves on the contact line.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:47 am to John Barron
Translation for those keeping score at home; Ukraine thwarting the Russian bear with old men and nurses.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:48 am to John Barron
3 Contracts!?
Ukraine and the United States signed three documents at once on the subsoil agreement, and not one, as was officially reported, according to an article in Politico.
Difficulties arose on the eve of the signing because Ukraine refused to sign the main economic pact and two additional technical agreements, nevertheless it was later signed.
"A U.S. official confirmed that the parties signed all three agreements after Ukraine requested some last-minute changes and the U.S. Treasury Department took a 'hard line,'"
Earlier, the Ukrainian authorities reported that a rather framework document was signed, and details on the Fund’s work should be contained in the Limited Partnership Agreement, which is still being discussed.
All the documents have already been signed, but only one has been presented to the public so far - the most vague of all.
Ukraine and the United States signed three documents at once on the subsoil agreement, and not one, as was officially reported, according to an article in Politico.
Difficulties arose on the eve of the signing because Ukraine refused to sign the main economic pact and two additional technical agreements, nevertheless it was later signed.
"A U.S. official confirmed that the parties signed all three agreements after Ukraine requested some last-minute changes and the U.S. Treasury Department took a 'hard line,'"
Earlier, the Ukrainian authorities reported that a rather framework document was signed, and details on the Fund’s work should be contained in the Limited Partnership Agreement, which is still being discussed.
All the documents have already been signed, but only one has been presented to the public so far - the most vague of all.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:49 am to John Barron
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so desperate for warm bodies
Things aren't so bad that they're calling in Koreans yet. But it may get to that point.
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they are about to mobilize health care workers
Wow. It's like a gruesome war with hundreds of casualties a day requires health care workers. That's crazy!
I guess the Ukrainian front is crumbling? We should see a collapse any day now? Kiev by July?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:51 am to John Barron
When is Russia going to capitulate Ukraine? Based on these reports of Russia's overwhelming advantage and Ukraine's struggles to even field a military force, it cannot be far off. The mighty Russian army should be curb-stomping Ukraine at this point.
What is your best guess on when they take Ukraine?
What is your best guess on when they take Ukraine?
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 11:58 am
Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:53 am to No Colors
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Wow. It's like a gruesome war with hundreds of casualties a day requires health care workers. That's crazy!
Fighting on the front lines
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Thus, medical workers who were "irreplaceable" in hospitals "yesterday" will "tomorrow" find themselves on the contact line
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:01 pm to John Barron
Record profits for Russia. I was told Russia was selling energy at a loss
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Any of yall old dudes think of Red Dawn when our comrade posts all of this Russia shite here?
Red dawn 1984
Before the internet and podcasts could brainwash Americans to trust Russia.
Red dawn 1984
Before the internet and podcasts could brainwash Americans to trust Russia.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:24 pm to No Colors
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It's fascinating to watch JB have to twist and turn and justify and defend.
Robots don't sweat.
Bots are never concerned with whether their input is offered for the truth of the matter asserted only that it causes strong reactions and division. It doesn't bother them that they constantly display irony and hypocrisy.
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