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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:48 pm to John Barron
Posted on 3/3/25 at 8:48 pm to John Barron
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Posted by GOP_Tiger 11/27/24 at 1:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
This thread endured so, so many utterly stupid trolling posts from texag, SirWinston, trinidad, and others who have insisted that President Trump would sell out Ukraine on Day 1.
And now, Trump has picked as his special envoy a man whose plan for Ukraine begins with substantially increasing military aid to Ukraine to force Russia to the bargaining table.
It's almost as though our resident idiots actually believed the crap that Tim Pool, Tucker, and the other paid Russian operatives were pushing out.
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 9:52 pm to 94LSU
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But after all this how do we get peace?
Stop encroaching on Russian borders with, you know, NATO troops?
(add in Sweden)
They didn't play that chess game very well...
Russia's population and everything else is heavily centered in Moscow...
NATO has had a clear shot at Moscow from the Baltic states since 2004... now with Finland in NATO... if something went down...
But NATO is a defensive only pact. Don't start no shite, won't be no shite.
Russia likes to start shite.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:10 pm to texag7
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Posted by GOP_Tiger 11/27/24 at 1:01 pm to GOP_Tiger
This thread endured so, so many utterly stupid trolling posts from texag, SirWinston, trinidad, and others who have insisted that President Trump would sell out Ukraine on Day 1.
And now, Trump has picked as his special envoy a man whose plan for Ukraine begins with substantially increasing military aid to Ukraine to force Russia to the bargaining table.
It's almost as though our resident idiots actually believed the crap that Tim Pool, Tucker, and the other paid Russian operatives were pushing out.
I told you General Bill went awol before all of his predictions/geopolitical analysis were proven as crap. He wasn't nearly as clever as he thought he was.
He bailed.
Looks like Lunatic Keith, Cope and Bagdad Bob of Kiev are going to stick it out to the bitter end.
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:16 pm to AU86
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“500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians,”
Donald Tusk.
Yep. Now, the US set up NATO to make sure no European countries besides the UK were too strong, militarily, independently (and France under De Gaulle told us to go frick ourselves and armed up and went nuclear, anyway)...
And that was so cushy they liked it. A friend just said earlier today that when he was stationed in West Germany in the 80s the Germans wanted to have a stronger military, and everybody he was on the base with said "yeah... that's obviously not a good idea considering..."
So... maybe they'll commit to what's obvious... it will take them a few years, but tying up Putin in Ukraine for a few more years might buy them the time.
If they don't... well, then
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:22 pm to Lee B
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but tying up Putin in Ukraine for a few more years might buy them the time.
A few more years?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:23 pm to LSUPilot07
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Zelensky needs to swallow his pride, sign the deal with Trump and get the ball rolling to a solution
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:26 pm to ColtRange
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Yep, I spent the last 6 months posting about Texas sports to throw you guys off my scent.
Hasn't your dumbass been saying for 3 years that Russia is selling oil for a loss and the economy will crash any day now?
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:28 pm to texag7
GOPe_Tiger absolutely obliterated
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:43 pm to doubleb
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People keep assuming Russia is ready to deal. I haven’t seen anything that tells me that they are.
Russia is not ready to deal, never have been... probably never will be...
They set unacceptable conditions to even begin negotiations and move the goal posts more to impossible land from there if they're agreed to...
Putin wants control of Ukraine, same as he has of Belarus, and won't accept anything else.
The call for an election is because he thinks he can influence it enough to get a pro-Kremlin candidate elected. I think he's fooling himself about that as much as he fooled himself that this would be a 3 day special operation where the Ukrainian people greeted Russians as liberators and Zelensky looked at that caravan headed to Kyiv and ran away to Poland.
What does Russia get if the lines are frozen where they are now? A lot of villages and cities they reduced to rubble and strewn with landmines. They already had Crimea, now they have a structurally compromised bridge and even less water running to it.
They demand to be given cities they don't even militarily occupy to start negotiations.
So, if they keep what they have, they have ruins... and probably no money to concentrate on building them up.
While Ukraine works out deals with the EU to rebuild...
Sp one of the initial problems - the example that EU membership is financially better than being in Russia's orbit - is even more obvious.
Zelensky is right. This isn't going to end... until Putin is gone.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:44 pm to ColtRange
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Hasn't your dumbass been saying for 3 years that Russia is selling oil for a loss and the economy will crash any day now?
Facts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:47 pm to Darth_Vader
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That’s where Trump comes into the equation. Hate the man all you want, but history proves, unlike other world leaders, including other American presidents, Putin at least respects him.
Putin does not respect Trump.
He does maybe fear his unpredictability.
Biden could not hold back his hatred of Putin... but his fear of a nuclear exchange made him sit on his hands.
Trump doesn't really understand that a nuclear exchange would be a bad thing. He didn't understand why we couldn't just nuke Iran or ISIS.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:51 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The problem is, (Zelensky)’s not an oligarch, he doesn’t control any industry in Ukraine, he doesn’t run an organized crime syndicate, and all of his wealth and power is predicated on the fact that he’s president.
This is incredibly incorrect... the vast majority of his fortune comes from his TV and film production company, and his hit TV shows. It's been posted here so many times I don't feel like looking it up again.
From memory, he's worth about $30,000,000, and has houses and real estate, a yacht and 2 jets.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:51 pm to CitizenK
CitizenK reduced to posting blind X links and pesky Russian bots. 
You can embed the tweet but it’s super secret technology not even Silicon Valley nor Ukraine know about. I just had lunch with a guy that invented it.
You can embed the tweet but it’s super secret technology not even Silicon Valley nor Ukraine know about. I just had lunch with a guy that invented it.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 10:56 pm to TutHillTiger
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Biden tried to send a dozen or so tactical nukes to Poland which I assume would have ended up in Ukraine but they couldn’t off the ground at the AFB in England due to the drones and orbs.
Source?
Putin loved a lot of tactical nukes to Belarus, and a lot of them to border with Lithuania... "the Suwalki Gap" that runs between Poland and Lithuania into Kaliningrad...
So Maybe they were be deployed in Poland close to that in response...
But putting those in the Baltics does put them in range to hit Moscow... so that would cause a shitstorm.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:00 pm to Lee B
Foreign Policy: Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Are Now in Belarus
The move sends a clear political message, but some experts downplay its military significance.
March 14, 2024
Russia has moved tactical nuclear weapons from its own borders into neighboring Belarus, several hundred miles closer to NATO territory, Western officials confirmed to Foreign Policy, as Russian President Vladimir Putin threatens a wider military showdown with the alliance over its continued support for Ukraine.
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“The Russians can reach any place in NATO with nuclear missiles with what they have on their own territory,” said Rose Gottemoeller, a former top U.S. arms control envoy and deputy secretary-general of NATO. “It does not change the threat environment at all. So it is purely a political message.”
The move sends a clear political message, but some experts downplay its military significance.
March 14, 2024
Russia has moved tactical nuclear weapons from its own borders into neighboring Belarus, several hundred miles closer to NATO territory, Western officials confirmed to Foreign Policy, as Russian President Vladimir Putin threatens a wider military showdown with the alliance over its continued support for Ukraine.
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“The Russians can reach any place in NATO with nuclear missiles with what they have on their own territory,” said Rose Gottemoeller, a former top U.S. arms control envoy and deputy secretary-general of NATO. “It does not change the threat environment at all. So it is purely a political message.”
This post was edited on 3/3/25 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:09 pm to Lee B
That's likely to be some effective sabre-rattling from our Vlad 
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:18 pm to AU86
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Now that's the most sense you've made in quite a while...
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:21 pm to VolSquatch
America has massive reserves of natural gas as well as oil if dems are not crimping the pipes. Europe and America would be better served if Europe had the US as the supplier.
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:22 pm to Lee B
Posted on 3/3/25 at 11:24 pm to SirWinston
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It took Putin everything Russia could tolerate to take just 18% of his old Ukrainian land back. 18%.
That just proves he's nuts, desperate, and does awful benefit/cost analysis...
in other words, a wacko you can't trust... with the world's biggest nuclear arsenal.
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