re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

lol does that one really live in Russia? I thought he was just a paid Irish dude.

DD Geopolitics. Did you research these people? Are they pro Russian too?

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Did you research these people?

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Rybar and Larry Johnson are some, the rest are no one I recognize, so most definitely pro PUTIN.

Putin rejects Trump team's 'peace plan' idea – ISW


27.12.2024 11:59

Russian President Vladimir Putin has explicitly rejected a proposed "peace plan" reportedly considered by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump’s team to end the war in Ukraine.

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said this in a new report, according to Ukrinform.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin explicitly rejected a suggestion reportedly considered by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's team in early November 2024 that would delay Ukraine's membership in NATO for at least a decade as a condition for ending the war in Ukraine," ISW analysts said.

Putin responded on December 26 to a journalist's request to comment on the Trump team’s reported early November suggestion to delay Ukraine's membership in NATO for 10 to 20 years. Putin stated that it does not matter if Ukraine joins NATO "today, tomorrow, or in 10 years."

According to ISW analysts, Putin's December 26 statement is part of a series of comments he has made recently reiterating his refusal to consider compromises on his late 2021 and early 2022 demands. These demands include forcing Ukraine to become a permanently neutral state that will never join NATO, imposing severe limitations on the size of the Ukrainian military, and removing the Ukrainian government.

Ukrinform

Can I ask you a serious legitimate question?

Do you think Ukraine has a chance of winning this war by pushing Russia out of it's territory? What is the ultimate goal as things currently stand?

Would it not be better for Ukraine to enter negotiations now to end this before it gets even worse?

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Do you honestly believe Putin is ready to negotiate a peace deal and honor it?

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If this is true, and maybe it is, why isn't he ready based on what some of you are saying?

You all tell us that their economy is in the toilet, they are about to run out of key armaments, they are dependent on Iran and North Korea to even fight, etc etc etc.

So if I were Putin and I had been steadily gaining territory for a few months, and now I can negotiate with an American president who wants "ended the war in Ukraine" on his resume from a relative position of strength.... why wouldn't I?

To keep it super simple .... either Putin actually is ready and willing to negotiate, OR things aren't going as poorly for Russia as you have been led to believe they are. To me one of two things has to be true. And keep in mind that even if the former is the truth, he still may not be able to accept whatever terms are laid out if rolling the dice on the war continuing seems better to him than whatever guaranteed outcome we are offering at the time.

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You answered your own question. The war isn’t going like he hoped, but he is counting on the US and Europe to fold because politically he can’t cut a deal that looks like he is giving up something.

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Not exactly. If his calculus is still telling him that its better to continue, then the war can't really be going that poorly for him. Thats kind of the point of the entire post

Even Ukraine, who has 0 motivation to say so other than to prepare their population for this outcome, says they can't regain all their territory. So Putin will come away with soemthing at the end of this.