re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Clinton shows just what the dems think of Ukraine and it's people. They don't give a frick about them and would gladly see them destroyed over a decade. They are only a pawn to be sacrificed for US global ambitions.

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You have individuals in this thread who invoked the “Republicans supported the Iraq/Afghanistan war” as some argument as to why they should support this, while completely neglecting the fact that we spent 20 years there with nothing to show for it except for lost lives and wasted money.

You would think people would have learned from Iraq/Afghanistan and would want to not get involved in another debacle.

Now, everyone is supposed to be in the “fully support this and our intervention” bandwagon for the next conflict for us to dump billions into.

And if you don’t come out and condemn the Russians immediately or post anything questioning the conflict or Ukraine itself, you are a “Putin lover”.



Just remember this is the same group of people who do things like change the name of poutine because it sounds too much like Putin, ban Russian cats from international competitions, try to ban the teaching of Fyodor Dostoyevsky because he is Russian, push to kick all Russian students out of US universities, etc.

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I just can’t keep up. I thought Ukraine was winning, but Zalensky is begging for the jews now to help.

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It's war, not chutes and ladders. Both can be true.

(Not that I think either side is "winning" currently but take any help you can get.)

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sky screamed at muh walls dont work

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The walls could have worked. When they climb over the wall, load them in a trebuchet, say "You have to go back", then pull the lever.

So many Putin and Russia lovers now upset and the tune is slowly changing from “watch how genius Putin does it” to “why should we fund Ukraine”.

We should fund them because if Ukraine falls, the rest of Europe is next and that has a huge economic and geo political impact on us. The US is not living in a silo. Keep Ukraine in the fight, weaken Russia and protect the Europeans. It makes sense and as long we we don’t send troops, most rational Americans on both sides will be good.

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Somebody left the gate open on the poliboard today and they all got loose and showed up over here.

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Upset people are pissing on your neocon/neoprog echo chamber?

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We should fund them because if Ukraine falls, the rest of Europe is next and that has a huge economic and geo political impact on us.

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Somebody left the gate open on the poliboard today and they all got loose and showed up over here.

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Echo chambers can be boring even for regulars. Eventually, jerk-off, edge lord, shite posting about the ‘Storm’, ‘Zelensky is the prophesied anti-Christ,’ and ‘Putin is the last great hope for nationalism’ just can’t hold peoples’ attention.

BTW, not like it really matters but that clip they keep showing of the news crew coming up on the Russian tank crews and as a reporter walks up to explain who they are and is talking to them, the tank crews get spooked, and take defensive positions. The news media keeps alleging they targeted the news crew, which is bs.

Those Russians behaved very professionally. Obviously, their sensors picked up movement or something behind the news crew, and they took a defensive position. While it is true that for a second or two the gun turret was pointed directly at the last Vehicle, they weren’t really targeting them, it was just pivoting to get in defensive posture. The gun sensor probably locked on them on as it was rotating. A little sloppy but they never targeted the news crews.

Could have been a wild animal, could have been Ukrainian soldiers taking advantage of the distraction. But those tank commanders did not panic, and did not accidentally shot anyone etc, and shouldn’t be getting shite over this.

I wonder how low Russian support for the invasion must get before Putin starts false flag operations back home. will we start to see “terrorist” bombings in Russian cities, pinned on Ukrainians, if he starts to feel pressure.

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Sounds like a job for Europeans. This has the biggest direct impact on them, yet once again we’re spending the most on it. If we hadn’t sold ourselves out to such a high degree this would matter even less for us.

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We got a verbal commitment from the new German administration that a new constitutional amendment will be forthcoming to guarantee a minimum of 3% of German GDP is spent on defense.

But European constitutions are so easy to amend that all it would take is for a less hawkish German chancellory to be elected and that amendment would be replaced by a new amendment lowering the defense budget commitment.

But at least we have the current verbal agreement to more defense spending.