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Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:46 am to upgrayedd
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How much are you willing to spend to rebuild?
Do you think money spent by governments just disappears? Do you understand how investments work?
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:47 am to upgrayedd
I believe we have about $300B of Russian's money we impounded. I think we reimburse ourselves for the military aid and give the rest to Ukraine to rebuild.
I think the EU should bear the majority of the rebuilding cost.
I think the EU should bear the majority of the rebuilding cost.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:50 am to Chromdome35
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I think the EU should bear the majority of the rebuilding cost.
I think we will see healthy capital investment from the US into post-war Ukraine, as all indications are that joining the EU will bolster their long-term prospects in terms of GDP.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:51 am to upgrayedd
I answered your question, will you answer mine?
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What about the other 98.57%? Are you as worried about that as you are about the 1.43%?
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:51 am to crazy4lsu
The EU should be hearing most of the cost for the war and the rebuild but Europe is pretty fricking useless so daddy has to pay for everything once again.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 10:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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The EU should be hearing most of the cost for the war and the rebuild but Europe is pretty fricking useless so daddy has to pay for everything once again.
Europe is weak compared to the US by design. And in truth, the restrictive monetary policy Europe pursued after 2008 shows the limits of austerity, as their recovery wasn't nearly as pronounced as the US's.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:00 am to GOP_Tiger
Interesting and would signify an amphibious crossing
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:06 am to crazy4lsu
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How is this a realistic figure? You think the US would spend around 50 times what they've spent so far? Are you retarded?
It's not. I started high to see if that was something you'd be willing to spend. Give me a realistic number you'd say is a cut off.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:07 am to Chromdome35
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What about the other 98.57%? Are you as worried about that as you are about the 1.43%?
Of course
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:09 am to upgrayedd
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Of course
How many posts have you made about it?
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:11 am to crazy4lsu
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Do you think money spent by governments just disappears? Do you understand how investments work?
Yeah, Iraq and Afghanistan were excellent investments
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:18 am to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
Situational fiscal conservative. I missed your "conservatism" regarding spending when Trump was President but I'm sure you are consistent.
When you do a formation run in the 82nd somebody in the ranks will scream out "how far we goin?" and then then everybody responds "all the way"' So how much will it cost? whatever it takes.
Some good news on the rebuild cost though. About 400 billion of Russian cash has been siezed via sanction. Currently sitting in Western banks drawing interest. More being collected everyday because the Russians arent very smart.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:21 am to upgrayedd
The point I'm making is this:
You have been vocal in this thread about our spending on Ukraine, have you been equally vocal about all the other government spending?
It matters because it establishes if you are just a troll or not. If you have been arguing against all of the spending, not just the Ukraine spending, then I wouldn't class you as a troll. However, if you only complain about the spending on Ukraine and not about all the other spending, then you come across as a Russian talking point troll.
Which are you?
You have been vocal in this thread about our spending on Ukraine, have you been equally vocal about all the other government spending?
It matters because it establishes if you are just a troll or not. If you have been arguing against all of the spending, not just the Ukraine spending, then I wouldn't class you as a troll. However, if you only complain about the spending on Ukraine and not about all the other spending, then you come across as a Russian talking point troll.
Which are you?
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:22 am to Chromdome35
The Tuck has been cucked.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:23 am to upgrayedd
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It's not. I started high to see if that was something you'd be willing to spend. Give me a realistic number you'd say is a cut off.
There isn't a real cut off, because of the way the aid is structured and the fact that the conflict could go on a long time. You're just upset that the money is being spent at all and don't understand anything about government spending, which has been clear. It isn't like you are going to propose spending that money domestically.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:23 am to crazy4lsu
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Europe is weak compared to the US by design.
No matter how many times this is explained, or how slowly you type they refuse to understand this.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:24 am to upgrayedd
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Yeah, Iraq and Afghanistan were excellent investments
Again, you don't appear to understand how investments work. Nicely done.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:31 am to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
And you know you can buy equity shares in most defense contractors right?
AND, you are correct there will be a frick ton of cash in Ukraine for the rebuild. So instead of being helpless and frustrated on the internet figure out a way to slice off a piece of that cash.
A Danish officer I met in Iraq and I set up a company to remove uxo. Approved in Ukraine (but they dont have any money) and awaiting approval through the EU (they do have money). Lots of ways to skin kitty cats.
Posted on 4/24/23 at 11:36 am to doubleb
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How much cash are we giving them? How much are we spending to replace weapons we are giving Ukraine?
These are two big questions and it’s tough to get an answer.
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Between January 2022 and January 2023, the U.S. committed more than $26 billion to Ukraine in financial assistance, according to data compiled by the Ukraine Support Tracker at the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German think tank. That’s about a third of the roughly $77 billion in total aid noted by Kiel, including humanitarian and military assistance, pledged by the U.S. government. The numbers represent money promised, not entirely distributed.
Another tally from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget places the total amount of aid approved by Congress in 2022 for supporting the Ukrainian government and allies at about $113 billion. That includes about $27 billion in economic support funds, $7.9 billion for international disaster assistance and $6.6 billion to support and relocate refugees.
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