re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Knowing what you know now, how would you suggest we could have avoided this Ukrainian catastrophe?

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seems like us threatening to use nukes on russia would have done the trick am i right

Not to continue to press on Elon, but is anyone suspicious as to why once the Pentagon made preparations to fully fund Starlink in Ukraine, Elon immediately withdrew his request for funding (under the guise of doing good deeds)?

I'm suspicious he wants to continue being a major player in this conflict, having autonomy over service rendered in the warzone. My hope is that no reason other than a savior complex exist for this move.

Zelenski Ukraine terrorist regime stopped. No major counterattack coming before winter now. Mobiks arriving en mass. Its all over but the cryin.

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Russia says NATO in Ukraine will trigger WWIII.

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and the US should have said russia in ukraine will trigger WWIII. this could have all been avoided

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First of all, I seriously doubt that Russia is relying on GT23 from TD.com for anything

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Lol, tell that to OML, who pretends that people nominally supporting Ukraine are genocidal warmongers.

But I'm talking about the sentiment expressed, not that you expressed the sentiment specifically. That line of argument will absolutely be used if Russia wants the Baltics at some point in the future.

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Using a NATO country potentially being attacked as a reason to retaliate with nuclear weapons because of Ukraine is a cop out and frankly, is being used to dupe people into thinking it’s the only option.

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But the issue is that Russia is dictating the security of another country. That's the only issue. The options are between the two states in question. That Russia is willing to use nuclear weapons to achieve very short-term strategic aims is telling.

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The evidence is the fact that despite attempts to negotiate

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What attempts?

Macron brought nothing to the table. Nothing! Hell, Ukraine was not even willing to fully abide the Minsk Accords, much less withdraw from NATO discussions.

The Kremlin made no secret it was massing troops on the border. Macron was talking about "months of negotiations". Gathered Armies are rarely that patient.

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But the issue is that Russia is dictating the security of another country. That's the only issue. The options are between the two states in question. That Russia is willing to use nuclear weapons to achieve very short-term strategic aims is telling.

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That’s why I said the question is whether or not Ukraine is worth it. We have an ironclad pact with the Baltics. We’ve already gone above and beyond any agreements we have with Ukraine…much more so than any other European power.

Now one card argue whether or not the US still should be a part of NATO. I’d personally argue against it. The whole prosperity dividends from a secure Europe I don’t really buy into. Frankly I think that’s a bunch of mumbo jumbo that academics and statesmen like to site around the cigar room and jerk each other off to to make themselves more relevant than they really should be.

But the fact is we are a member of NATO and and an attack one is an attack on all. So we have to respond, no question about it.

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Zelenski Ukraine terrorist regime stopped. No major counterattack coming before winter now. Mobiks arriving en mass. Its all over but the cryin.

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We remember your last great prediction...

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The Azov Sea is Russia’s now. Goodnight.

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Now one card argue whether or not the US still should be a part of NATO. I’d personally argue against it. The whole prosperity dividends from a secure Europe I don’t really buy into. Frankly I think that’s a bunch of mumbo jumbo that academics and statesmen like to site around the cigar room and jerk each other off to to make themselves more relevant than they really should be.

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You are entirely wrong, myopic, naïve, etc. Thank god you aren't in charge. Good grief.