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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Watching the battle of the bulge episode on band brothers and the last ditch Hail Mary offensive reminds me of the futile Ukrainian counter offensive lol


Damn you are so dim.
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:13 pm to
Look at any US policy paper from about 2006 on concerning Ukraine and the intent of almost every program was integration with NATO, membership was always a question, but the goal was to constantly move the ball forward. I worked there in a military capacity in 2008 and the mission was pretty clear.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8165 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:15 pm to
It's like they are all the same person, just posting under different accounts.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:17 pm to
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Look at any US policy paper from about 2006 on concerning Ukraine and the intent of almost every program was integration with NATO, membership was always a question, but the goal was to constantly move the ball forward. I worked there in a military capacity in 2008 and the mission was pretty clear.


And? It isn't like NATO hasn't been explicit about Ukraine's ascension to the alliance. They have been, as have various Ukrainian political parties.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:18 pm to
It was all Kiev Rus before that. The Cyrillic alphabet is actually Ukrainian. Russia adopted to become literate
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:18 pm to
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It simply wasn't possible because of their active border issues with Russia.


I agree.

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You may not have had any doubt that Ukraine was going to join NATO


I do not have any doubt.

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NATO already said they can't.


It was a moot point once Russia invaded.



So for those that struggle with linear time:

June 14th 2021 Biden denies Ukraine prez’s claim that NATO ‘confirmed’ his country can join

June 15th 2021 NATO says no to Ukraine

December 9th 2021 Biden assures Zelenskiy that NATO membership in Ukraine's hands, Kyiv says

February 24th 2022 - Russia goes all in

Either bicycle boy or the pianist are lying.

You can’t have it both ways.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30452 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:18 pm to
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Watching the battle of the bulge episode on band brothers and the last ditch Hail Mary offensive reminds me of the futile Ukrainian counter offensive lol


Unfortunately, that is an easy conflation to make for someone whose only DD-214 is derived from playing COD.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28570 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:20 pm to
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I do not see anything psychopathic about it, Machiavellian maybe.

The U.S. has been ruthless in advancing its interests in Europe and Asia through this opportunity. At the time the administration made its initial decisions in this situation, it was an objective fact that Biden was floundering and was very indecisive in domestic policy. His initial utopian belief that he could reach across the aisle and do big things was clearly naive. The economy was dropping. Russia and China were starting to organize against us.

This situation in Ukraine presented an unbelievable opportunity for the U.S. to get back in front as a world leader and to push Russia down. The strategists in Washington played it perfectly.

Regardless of anyone’s views of Biden as a president, there is no doubt that there are enough smart and dedicated strategists in positions of power in this administration to make a nimble policy decision to take advantage of an opportunity.

Biden may not be re-elected, but his administration has definitely put the U.S. in a stronger position right now than we were in at the end of 2021.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22581 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:20 pm to
Russian Army might be using some equipment in Ukraine from the original battle of the bulge.
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Unfortunately, that is an easy conflation to make for someone whose only DD-214 is derived from playing COD.


Really because 99.9% of y’all Ukraine fans would benefit from playing COD from the blatant kool aid drinking im reading.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:21 pm to
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It's like they are all the same person, just posting under different accounts


It's never anything of substance either. Just screeching about Twitter posts, with a few posts sprinkled in about sources, without any hint of irony. They aren't doing the work required of all individuals in the social media age to vet sources themselves. Because they either lack the capacity or are lazy, they just reject information out of hand. It's an insane way of operating in the world.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15692 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Russia, Louisiana, and Jackson Mississippi are worse.


per my wife's uncle who was general legal counsel for a multi-national chemical/plastics company, it wasn't the state politicians who wanted pockets lined, but the local parish elected officials in.... Ascension Parish.

No one wants to do business in Plaquemines Parish unless it is necessary and very lucrative. Calcasieu is bad, where there most major complexes are located.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:25 pm to
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They aren't doing the work required of all individuals in the social media age to vet sources themselves. Because they either lack the capacity or are lazy, they just reject information out of hand. It's an insane way of operating in the world.


I called out three posters for this exact thing.

Liars lie, it’s what they do.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Really because 99.9% of y’all Ukraine fans would benefit from playing COD from the blatant kool aid drinking im reading.


And delusional people say delusional things
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Regardless of anyone’s views of Biden as a president, there is no doubt that there are enough smart and dedicated strategists in positions of power in this administration to make a nimble policy decision to take advantage of an opportunity.


I feel sorry for you.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:28 pm to
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And delusional people say delusional things


I hear ya. Check out what low-t wrote.

On that note:

Good night gents.
This post was edited on 9/11/22 at 10:29 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28570 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:29 pm to
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I called out three posters for this exact thing. Liars lie, it’s what they do.

Wait. You’re the one who pretends not to know anything and pretends to be unable to run a single google search. You pretend that you have no clue that any right wing media personalities have expressed support for Russia?

Did you run that search? Did it fail to answer your question?

If you don’t try to look around, no one will do it for you.

I will give you a link, but only if you look around first and tell me what your looking reveals.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42611 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Watching the battle of the bulge episode on band brothers and the last ditch Hail Mary offensive reminds me of the futile Ukrainian counter offensive lol


And I look at Russia and see the Germans in September of 43
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44231 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:30 pm to
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I will give you a link, but only if you look around first and tell me what your looking reveals.


Eat shite communazi.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28570 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 10:31 pm to
Your shame and embarrassment is showing.
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