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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:52 pm to QboveTopSecret
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:52 pm to QboveTopSecret
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Coal is by far the most abundant of the deposits in Russian-controlled parts of Ukraine. The approximately 30 billion tons of hard coal deposits there have an estimated commercial value of $11.9 trillion, SecDev estimates. They also have symbolic value as a storied energy source.
WashPost
Whenever in doubt, follow the money. Thats just the tip of the iceberg, not counting minerals and the resources of the black sea.
There is no way Russia wanted any of this.
They only wanted Kiev
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:01 pm to QboveTopSecret
Dude you’re trying to make sense to a bunch of people that watch cnn and think Russia should destroy their country and invade Kiev and western Ukraine for the lolz and pvss of NATO.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:04 pm to Palmetto98
Palmetto, what’s your take on the Ukrainian offensive?
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:07 pm to SDVTiger
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None of the info from all these accounts has ever been confirmed
Actually, a lot of information has indeed been confirmed from a lot of the Twitter and Telegraph accounts. It just takes time and some is true and some is false and a lot is somewhere in between. Everyone in this thread knows that and every proffer is given with an implied caveat that it may or may not be true.
If you had added a single bit of useful information in this thread you wouldn't look like such a jackass. However, as I said before you never add anything useful to this entire forum. You are simply a drive-by poster with nothing to say, you are just the guy that walks up to a group talking agrees or disagrees then stands there awkwardly while the group continues to talk. Just celery.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:08 pm to Obtuse1
Is this the longest thread in TD history?
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:09 pm to Tyga Woods
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Is this the longest thread in TD history?
Not even close.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:13 pm to Obtuse1
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Actually, a lot of information has indeed been confirmed from a lot of the Twitter and Telegraph accounts
Post them all and the conformation
I will stand corrected
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:20 pm to jeffsdad
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To the military guys: Can we somewhat assume the section north of the bulge and all the way to the border will soon be in the U's hands? It may depend on how transportation is just over the border in Russian, idk.
Honestly, with no more information than we have your gut feeling is probably just as good as those of us here who have the T-shirt.
I will say the Ukes seem to have absorbed the western training well and are probably getting good intel and advice and they seem to be using it. I will say the US would not be attempting that salient without significant confidence it would be successful, make of that what you will.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:22 pm to SDVTiger
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568369971599745027
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568389931948560386
https://twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/status/1568388883074928641
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568379576266461184
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568351104324214786
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I'm seeing unconfirmed reports that Russian units are retreating from Svyatohirs'k and Lyman. If accurate, Russian forces between Lyman and Kupyansk are effectively collapsing in real time.
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568389931948560386
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In my opinion a strategic level collapse in this sector is possible if the Russians can't stabilize their lines swiftly.
https://twitter.com/Blake_Allen13/status/1568388883074928641
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Reportedly Lyman is mostly a mix of L/DNR conscripts & Rosgvardia. It’s a very weak collection of forces. Especially since it seems most of the Central Military District formations in the area were rotated out & towards Zaporizhzhia/Kherson
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568379576266461184
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Same reports: UAF forces pushing south along the west bank of the Oskol river, and also advancing north from south of Izium. A pocket may be forming to trap Russian units.
https://twitter.com/RealCynicalFox/status/1568351104324214786
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The Russians are frantically working to reinforce against the offensive drive E/SE of Kharkiv. If their lines in that sector cannot be stabilized, their positions south of Kupyansk & west of the Oskol River, at least down to Izium, are in danger of collapsing.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:26 pm to deeprig9
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If Ukraine military is doing such a great job, why is nearly half the country under Russian control at this moment?
People pop in to say we are all deluded but then the Russophiles show up and say stupid shite like this. If you don't know what you are talking about take some time to educate yourself or ask sincere questions.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:29 pm to Chromdome35
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I'm seeing unconfirmed reports
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In my opinion
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Reportedly Lyman
So nothing factual
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:31 pm to CitizenK
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What a joke!!! How much is Putin paying you or is your IQ that low?
Maybe he is drinking the Jackson water with OML.
At least in Louisiana, they had fuchsia water. At least you die pissing a rainbow.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:32 pm to Chromdome35
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Palmetto, what’s your take on the Ukrainian offensive?
Russia is playing the strangulation strategy
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:33 pm to SDVTiger
Of course not...wtf, you can't be this dense
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:34 pm to Palmetto98
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Russia is playing the strangulation strategy
What does that consist of? Are you saying they are luring Ukraine into a trap, and plan to cut them off in the pocket?
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:34 pm to Chromdome35
quote:you have no idea
you can't be this dense
Just keep paying attention. It’s pretty remarkable
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:40 pm to Chromdome35
Daily update from Rybar (russian source)
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??In Sudzha in the Kursk region, Ukrainian saboteurs opened fire on a checkpoint of the Russian Guard, several people were injured. Law enforcement agencies are looking for the attackers.
??Russian artillery worked on targets in the villages of Senkovka, Bleshnya and Guy of the Chernihiv region, as well as Bolshoi Prikol, Stukalovka and Zapselya of the Sumy region.
??During the day, the RF Armed Forces attacked the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kharkiv and the surrounding settlements: the location of the Kraken national battalion, which housed a large number of Ukrainian military personnel, was destroyed in the city center.
??The Ukrainian counter-offensive continues in the Izyum direction, but the pace of the enemy’s advance has slightly decreased:
? The Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to take control of the Chuguev-Kupyansk highway to Grushevka, which allows them to transfer reserves and military equipment to the line of contact near Kupyansk. In Grushevka itself and Staroverovka, the enemy's shock fist is being prepared for the assault on Kupyansk.
? According to some reports, part of the RF Armed Forces continue to hold the eastern quarters of Balakleya. An attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine is expected on Veseloe and Kunya, where one of the key road junctions in this direction is located.
?Ukrainian forces also tried to capture the village of Gorohovatka, where there is also a bridge over the Oskol River, but were stopped by allied forces near Yasinovat.
??To the north-east of Slavyansk, the enemy will soon try to attack the Liman from Raygorodok with the aim of further access to the Oskolsky reservoir, which will enable the Izyum grouping.
??In the Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) direction, the allied forces were able to advance near Bakhmut:
? The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to counterattack in the east of Bakhmut, but in the end they were defeated, which allowed the Wagner PMC units to move slightly towards the industrial zone in the east of the city.
? In the suburbs of Bakhmut, allied forces are developing an offensive towards Nikolaevka II, Otradovka and the Donbasskaya substation.
?In Soledar, units of the Russian Armed Forces took control of several blocks near the Knauf-Gypsum plant.
??In the Donetsk direction, the shelling of Ukrainian formations on the capital of the DPR and the surrounding settlements does not stop. Positional battles continue in the suburbs of Donetsk.
??In the Zaporozhye region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to strike at the ZNPP and Energodar from Nikopol and Marganets, while Russian artillery is trying to suppress enemy positions with return fire.
??In the Kryvyi Rih direction, positional battles are taking place not far from Vysokopolye, as well as on the outskirts of Olgino and Arkhangelsk.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:42 pm to Chromdome35
More from Rybar on the Kharkiv Area Offensive
https://t.me/rybar/38518
https://t.me/rybar/38518
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?????????? Battle for Kharkov: the situation on the Izyum-Kupyansky sector of the front
by the end of September 9, 2022
??Kupyanskoe direction
??Due to the transfer of reserves to the Kupyansky sector of the front, the RF Armed Forces managed to stop the advance of the main forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine a few kilometers from the city limits.
??By the end of the day, the Armed Forces of Ukraine established control over the villages of Chkalovskoye, Shevchenko, Borovskoye and controlled the Chuguev-Kupyansk highway to Grushevka, which made it possible to transfer equipment and artillery systems to the line of contact.
??The Ukrainian command is forming a strike force to storm Kupyansk in the area of ??Grushevka and Staroverovka. The RF Armed Forces carry out artillery and rocket-bomb strikes on enemy concentration areas.
??The Armed Forces of Ukraine are shelling the rear settlements in the liberated territories. The village of Bolshoi Burluk was hit especially hard.
The Ukrainian formations will block the reserves of the Russian Armed Forces in Kupyansk and try to bypass the city from the north with the main forces, advancing in the direction of Dvurechensky.
??Izyum direction
??From the south of Izyum, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are attacking from Vernopolye and Dolina.
??When trying to advance to Gorokhovatka, the mobile groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine met with a rebuff near the village of Yasinovatoe.
??The reserves of the Russian Armed Forces came to the eastern bank of the Oskol River, which prevented attempts to cross the river by mobile groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Apparently, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will reinforce the mobile units on the western bank of the Oskol with heavy equipment and will try to conduct reconnaissance in combat of the defense of Izyum from the direction of Gorokhovatka
??Balakliya direction
??There are unverified reports that the eastern quarters of Balakleya are still being held by detachments of the Russian Armed Forces. In the near future, we should expect an attack by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the villages of Vesele and Kunye.
In the near future, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will attempt to attack the Liman from Raygorodok. The main goal of the Ukrainian command in the area is to reach the Oskol reservoir and encircle the Russian group near Izyum.
This post was edited on 9/9/22 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:44 pm to Chromdome35
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Of course not.
At least we finally agree that there has been nothing factual or confirmed from the twitter posts in this thread
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:44 pm to Chromdome35
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What does that consist of? Are you saying they are luring Ukraine into a trap, and plan to cut them off in the pocket?
Ukraine cannot invade Russia, Russia has the economically important regions of Ukraine under control, and they aren’t mobilizing the country either. Idk how the winter will look economic but Russia has put itself in defense.
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