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Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:45 pm to OMLandshark
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Western Europeans
What are they going to do?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:48 pm to SDVTiger
We get it, you’re upset that Putin wasn’t able to parade through Kyiv like he promised
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:59 pm to OMLandshark
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Because y’all are. This war is fun and distant to y’all and y’all won’t accept anything less than unconditional surrender from Russia. It’s not going to happen. Y’all don’t grasp the reality on the ground and accept all propaganda you get from that front. The fact of the matter is the supply lines and the economy do not lie. They paint a very grim picture, and it’s not good for the West. Russia will make sacrifices due to their kids being at war as will Ukraine. You really think Western Europe and everyone in this country thinks like y’all do?
1. It doesn’t matter what Western Europe does. Most of the aid that Western Europe has promised has not been delivered and will probably never be delivered. It’s eastern and Central Europe as well as the US and UK that keeping Ukraine in the fight. That aid is not stopping anytime soon.
2. We don’t want Russia to unconditionally surrender. We want them out of Ukraine.
3. Less than a month ago I was in Kharkiv and I saw the damage of the war with my own eyes. I saw the intentional shelling of civilians up close and personal. I was not just in a hospital adjusting meds on lightly wounded soldiers either either. I went out with other doctors after the shelling to aid stations which were in the danger area on multiple occasions. You can look at the pictures and videos all you want and dismiss them, but if you knew what it smelled like you would have a different story. Do you want to know what the aftermath of a Russian artillery attack smells like? It smells like smoke, vomit, piss, shite, perforated bowels which smells 100 times worse than shite, and decaying meat because there were bodies in the surrounding rubble that hadn’t been found yet. You have accused me of wishing death on children, but exactly one month ago I was pulling glass out of a child’s arm in Kharkiv and having to dive into a concert culvert when the Russians initially targeted the aid stations flying red crosses in them. Luckily the Russians can’t aim worth shite and we were just out of range. This war is real and personal to me and you can take your irrational and incorrect assumptions and shove them up your cowardly bunghole.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:03 pm to OMLandshark
Oligarch money left Russia months ago.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:04 pm to sta4ever
You are pathetic
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:07 pm to Mr Happy
For a month Chechens were on state TV talking about how if Putin unleashes them, they will march to take all of Europe to and including Berlin.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:08 pm to Eurocat
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Nice BMW, wonder how the impoverished Russian military paid for that, hmmmm....
The book 'Gorky Park' Explains it pretty succinctly
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:08 pm to OMLandshark
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Y’all do realize it is no longer hypothetical that Europe will collapse over this in some form or another, right? It’s happening in real fricking time before you, it’s just the next thing to kick in is the lackluster harvest and winter, both of which are inevitable. And if they’re not even directly paying for this war, you really think they’ll be willing to pay for all the ramifications for it, ramifications that will be much more severe there than in the US?
What’s exactly are they going to do?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:12 pm to OMLandshark
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Y’all do realize it is no longer hypothetical that Europe will collapse over this in some form or another, right? It’s happening in real fricking time before you, it’s just
This outcome can be prevented by Russia pulling out and letting Ukraine continue to be a sovereign nation.
We don't have to sit back and allow Russia to conquer whomever they please Neville
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:15 pm to RLDSC FAN
Why does anyone give a frick about his anymore?
Not our problem...
All out of fricks to give in my frick garden.
Not our problem...
All out of fricks to give in my frick garden.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:19 pm to Mr Happy
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Kadyrov publicly accused Putin of the defeat in Ukraine
I think that a bunch of his men were wiped off the face of the Earth the other day by the Ukrainians.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:33 pm to magildachunks
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This outcome can be prevented by Russia pulling out and letting Ukraine continue to be a sovereign nation.
And if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Just isn’t happening. As likely as the fricking Lions winning the Super Bowl this year.
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We don't have to sit back and allow Russia to conquer whomever they please Neville
Yeah, and where does that lead?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:34 pm to crazy4lsu
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What’s exactly are they going to do?
More societal mayhem and chaos. Just look at the Summer of Love but add in lack of heat, power, and a food shortage.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:37 pm to OMLandshark
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And if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Just isn’t happening.
I wouldn't be willing to bet on that knowing what is going on in our society today.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:40 pm to WeeWee
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1. It doesn’t matter what Western Europe does. Most of the aid that Western Europe has promised has not been delivered and will probably never be delivered. It’s eastern and Central Europe as well as the US and UK that keeping Ukraine in the fight. That aid is not stopping anytime soon.
I actually agree here, so why should we, people 4,000 miles away from the conflict, pay for this over Western Europe? No, time for them to write a check for billions of dollars. frick off on another one from us at least until that happens, and it has to be ten if not eleven figures.
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2. We don’t want Russia to unconditionally surrender. We want them out of Ukraine.
Which isn’t going to happen unless we directly have troops on the ground, which is a “frick no” from me.
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3. Less than a month ago I was in Kharkiv and I saw the damage of the war with my own eyes. I saw the intentional shelling of civilians up close and personal. I was not just in a hospital adjusting meds on lightly wounded soldiers either either. I went out with other doctors after the shelling to aid stations which were in the danger area on multiple occasions. You can look at the pictures and videos all you want and dismiss them, but if you knew what it smelled like you would have a different story. Do you want to know what the aftermath of a Russian artillery attack smells like? It smells like smoke, vomit, piss, shite, perforated bowels which smells 100 times worse than shite, and decaying meat because there were bodies in the surrounding rubble that hadn’t been found yet. You have accused me of wishing death on children, but exactly one month ago I was pulling glass out of a child’s arm in Kharkiv and having to dive into a concert culvert when the Russians initially targeted the aid stations flying red crosses in them. Luckily the Russians can’t aim worth shite and we were just out of range. This war is real and personal to me and you can take your irrational and incorrect assumptions and shove them up your cowardly bunghole.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 12:11 am to OMLandshark
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Yeah, and where does that lead?
We’ve already seen where the policy of appeasement led.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 5:29 am to AU86
In his case, very likely.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:00 am to CitizenK
It’s happening now. May God Bless the UA.
Posted on 8/29/22 at 6:02 am to OMLandshark
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More societal mayhem and chaos. Just look at the Summer of Love but add in lack of heat, power, and a food shortage.
Based on what? Are we sure there is going to be a food shortage?
Secondly, I asked what are these nations going to do to mitigate these effects? Or rather, what do you want these nations to do? Be explicit for once, because you tend to get avoid posts when I ask for direct answers.
I'm also little skeptical of your claims of complete collapse. LINK
Also from some cursory reading on the topic, I think that France's energy prices have increased 8%, Germany's prices have increased 20% or so, while I think the UK's prices have increased by a lot more. I need a more cogent argument from you if societal collapse is on the cards.
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