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Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:21 am to greenwave
[BBC]Twitter blocked for Russian users
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Dramatic videos and images of the invasion and the suffering it has caused have been going viral on social media - now access to Twitter, where many such images are shared, has been blocked for users in Russia, internet connectivity company NetBlocks has told the BBC.
Services started being disrupted on Saturday morning across multiple providers.
Russian authorities and social media platforms have clashed over platform rules relating to the conflict with Ukraine.
"Russia's restriction of Twitter will significantly limit the free flow of information at a time of crisis when the public most need to stay informed," NetBlocks Director, Alp Toker, said.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:21 am to geauxtigers87
quote:This. One only needs to read a transcript of his speech the other day to see that this is all about restoring what he thinks is the rightful Russian empire. Anyone who says Putin is doing this for anti-corruption matters should be laughed out of the room.
Putin knew Ukraine was a dirty hub for money laundry and a playground for the corrupt ruling elite of the west like John McCain and the US State Department. This played a role in him wanting to take it back. You think putin gives 2 fricks about this? He wants to rebuild the Russian empire and leave a legacy. That's it.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:21 am to Palmetto98
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According to this Ukrainian woman speaking on Fox News, Ukraine is getting their arse kicked and they need boots on the ground fast. This clearly contrasts from the Reddit/TD feed I’m getting here!
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:22 am to goldennugget
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No, its a lot more complicated than "good vs bad". There are too many moving parts. Putin isn't a good actor in this scenario. Zelensky isn't an innocent guy in this scenario. I feel bad for the citizens of Ukraine that are paying the price for their government's allegiance to the CIA.
Man, since you have all this shite figured out, then you should start live streaming your thoughts for the world to see and hear. You have the platform and the lack of self awareness to do it.
Link that shite for us when you do.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:23 am to Bunk Moreland
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But, I wondered if Putin is just trying to set them back 5 or 10 years.
If so, that's going to be a COSTLY move for 5-10 years.
Putin has fricked Russia with this move, and his entire plan to be "sanction proof" has effectively been to make Russia's economy so shitty sanctions wouldn't really affect the day-to-day lives of Russians much.
All of this to maybe create some very small buffer states and/or setting Ukraine a little back?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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If the people of Ukraine truly thought that their government was illegitimate, do you think that you would see the domestic response on the ground of this conflict that we are seeing? It's clear that Russia thought that the Ukrainian people would not resist an overthrow of a government that Russia perceived his illegitimate, but the actual actions show that they may have quite a bit more support for this government which makes it legitimate
I think pro-western Ukrainians will fight to defend their government and their homeland, yes. I don't know what that has to do with the elections 8 years ago.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:23 am to Palmetto98
You just know that these are the type of dudes that think
1. America should have never got involved in WWII
2. All American attempts to stop the spread of communism were just globalist raking in money with no room for nuance
3. The Jews did it
Now several of those ideas are counterintuitive but logic and reason is not their strength
1. America should have never got involved in WWII
2. All American attempts to stop the spread of communism were just globalist raking in money with no room for nuance
3. The Jews did it
Now several of those ideas are counterintuitive but logic and reason is not their strength
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Great point.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:24 am to SCLibertarian
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It's hilarious watching the people who called Bush a war criminal back in the Iraq days invoke the same bullshite his supporters did when it comes to this conflict.
This only works if these people are also pushing for US intervention, like we had in Iraq. I don't really see that in this thread today.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:25 am to upgrayedd
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I don't know what that has to do with the elections 8 years ago.
Agreed. Elections 8 years ago don't have any impact on today's events. That's the whole point.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
I haven’t seen it a single time on this site. Plenty of open cheering for the Russians thiugh
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:26 am to OGtigerfan87
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a dude eating chips in his mom’s basement
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Goldennugget
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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This only works if these people are also pushing for US intervention, like we had in Iraq. I don't really see that in this thread today.
I think US intervention is inevitable, and no doubt we are going to see some users support and justify it.
I think that is what a major part of the propaganda campaigns we are seeing on the likes of reddit and twitter are all about. These redditors and twitter users who are virtue signalling about Ukraine right now are being programmed/conditioned to give full throated support to the eventual US boots on the ground.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:26 am to OGtigerfan87
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Plenty of open cheering for the Russians thiugh
Where?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well that doesn’t make any sense. Prior to 8 years ago Ukraine had a Putin friendly president. Now they don’t. Putin mad. Putin invade.
Elections 8 years ago don't have any impact on today's events.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:27 am to goldennugget
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I think US intervention is inevitable
In what capacity?
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:28 am to Palmetto98
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I’m taking a break from this thread, it’s basically a leftist subreddit at this poin
Ok, bye
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:28 am to When in Rome
Putin just wants to push the West to be the best version of itself.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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Even if we overthrew a corrupt Russian plant for a Western plant, that's still not justification for invasion by Russia
Well, it obviously justified it for them. You said they invaded for no reason and that's clearly the reason. You and I don't agree with that reason, but it's 100% the reason nonetheless. Come on dude, you're a lawyer. I assume you have the ability to divorce your emotions or personal sense of morality from situations like this.
quote:It was poised to seek membership in the EU to begin pro-western trade agreements. That's pretty much an application for NATO membership.
Assuming the worst about your interpretation, Ukraine committed no aggressive acts towards Russia. Hell, it didn't even apply for NATO membership and, even had it joined NATO, that's not an aggressive move towards Russia (as NATO creates defensive responsibilities).
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If Russia's argument is that it might not be able to invade Ukraine without facing a larger response is their justification for invasion now? Not a justification.
Well, again, whether or not you agree with their justifications doesn't necessarily invalidate the reasoning from their standpoint. Come on, man. Are you really this bad a lawyering too or have you been watching too much H3H3 again?
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