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re: Larger copper line on my outside AC was frozen yesterday...advice?

Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:08 pm to
LSUperior, what's the latest? Just seeing this thread. Where are you located?? Maybe I can help!!
Posted by el Gaucho
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Member since Dec 2010
60144 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:10 pm to
The problem is that the rain is getting on the pipes and freezing, put a tarp over it and turn it back on
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:22 pm to
That's great advice, dumbass!!!
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86142 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:23 pm to
Mine was freezing as well. Put a tarp over it and it worked. Thanks for the advice.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8132 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:34 pm to
Check the air filter first to be sure it is not restricting air flow across the evaporator. That can cause an evaporator to freeze over but not the likely problem. The problem (low line freeze) is low suction pressure returning from the evaporator caused by low discharge pressure being sent from the compressor to the evaporator because of low refrigerant charge in the system. R-22 will start to freeze up lines at about 30 psi on the low side downstream of the evaporator. A normal system runs at 75-80 psi depending on ambient temps outside. You need a couple of lbs. charge of R-22 which unfortunately these days costs about $100 lb. to be put in by a tech. You have a leak in the system, likely in the evaporator because it works in a corrosive environment in south Louisiana with the humidity. Just charge it first. It might take a year to leak down if its a small leak. If it leaks down fast you will have to just pay up and fix it. I've changed both of my evaporators in my R-22 units over the years.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:40 pm to
You're welcome, I do my best to help around here
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15176 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 4:02 pm to
1) Check air filter
2) check evaporator coil for dust/dirt built up
3) check condenser count for dirt buildup

4) call A/C tech to charge friends/look for leak.
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1242 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:22 am to
Update: Just in case any of you guys were wondering...

AC tech came (friend of mine who's been doing this 10+ years, very knowledgeable). Below is a list of his troubleshoot and what he did.

1. First he went in the attic and looked in drain lines. Emergency (secondary drain line) was clear, but the main drain line was clogged up about 75%. He blew that line out really good about 4 times until it was all clear and draining good.

2. Checked out the attic unit duct work. The big return duct wasn't even tightened on. It was just slipped on and hanging there. He put some silicone to seal it and also a big tie wrap tight around it. While he had it off, he inspected the evap coil and said it was actually really clean and in good shape.

3. He noticed there were several spots on the plenum where they did a shitty job sealing the seams and also used some crappy aluminum tape. We pulled all the old tape off, cleaned the seams good with alcohol, and then applied some thicker commercial grade tape. No more air leaking after that.

4. Went to the outside unit and inspected the electrical. He noticed that the magnet/spring on the contactor was bad and told me that it was most likely getting stuck (there was some pitting on the round little circles) and probably wasn't shutting off the outside unit 100% of the time like it should be when the inside unit turns off. So he replaced the contactor with a new one.

5. Checked the freon level and he showed me on his gauges that it was about half of what it should have been. It was at 30 and should have been around 70-75. So he refilled it with R22 freon back up to around 70 (maybe 75). He also mentioned that I most likely have a leak in my evap coils since it was low on freon.

6. After filling it up with freon, he used a tube of stop leak and pushed it through the line with freon. Said that it may give me another year or two before having to do something (like changing out the coil or purchasing a new unit) that would require a good bit of money.

AC is running great now and has no problem getting very cold in the house, we've actually had to bump it up a few times to cut it off because it was getting too cold which never happened before.

Best thing about the whole situation (besides learning a good bit from him) was that he did all of this (which was about an 1.5-2 hours of work) all for the low price of...$125!
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
34774 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:35 am to
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all for the low price of...$125!


For his services and R-22...? You should be kissing his arse, or taking him to lunch....

Must be a really good friend...

So why the hell were you on TD asking for A/C advice when you know this guy...?
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:37 am
Posted by LSUperior
Member since Aug 2009
1242 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:41 am to
quote:

For his services and R-22...? You should be kissing his arse, or taking him to lunch....

Must be a really good friend...

So why the hell were you on TD asking for A/C advice when you know this guy...?


Yes lol...and he came out on the weekend! I asked because I usually try to troubleshoot and do things myself before I call someone.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:42 am to
My tenants in diamondhead just called and said the ac is not cooling. Had them turn it off, flip the breaker, turn back on. It's cools 4 or 5 mins then the cold air stops. Any ideas before I call the ac guy out?
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