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re: Lab grown diamonds
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:52 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:52 pm to Fun Bunch
You dum
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The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) in the United States has changed the definition of diamonds in its jewelry guidelines by removing the word ‘natural’. This further reinforces the position of lab-grown diamonds as real diamonds.
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Changes made by the FTC
Considering that the earlier definition was made in the year 1956, after which technological advances have made it possible to create diamonds in labs, the FTC eliminated certain words related to mined and man-made diamonds. Some of the crucial changes are:
The new definition reads, “A diamond is a mineral consisting essentially of pure carbon crystallized in the isometric system.”
The word “natural” is eliminated from the earlier definition.
The word synthetic has been removed in conjunction with man-made diamonds.
A clear distinction has been made between man-made diamonds and cheap diamond simulants.
It states the use of words such as “composite”, “hybrid”, “laboratory-grown” and “lab-created”, is unfair and deceptive.
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:54 pm to Fun Bunch
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If its grown in a lab its a lab grown diamond If its not Its a diamond
Keep digging baw.
*this is the point where you just ghost the thread. You’ve already embarrassed yourself, you’ve realized you were wrong, there’s no point in making it any worse than it has to be
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
i feel dirty being on mingo's side in this thread
Posted on 12/12/25 at 2:59 pm to Fun Bunch
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They tell stores they cannot sell lab grown diamonds without disclosing that they are lab grown diamonds
They do not have any such warning for... diamonds
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“When the commission first used this definition in 1956, there was only one type of diamond product on the market—natural stones mined from the earth. Since then, technological advances have made it possible to create diamonds in a laboratory. These stones have essentially the same optical, physical, and chemical properties as mined diamonds. Thus, they are diamonds.”
That's from the FTC baw.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:01 pm to LNCHBOX
The new definition reads, “A diamond is a mineral consisting essentially of pure carbon crystallized in the isometric system.”
FTC needs to talk to a geology professor.. if they meant to remove naturally occurring the need to remove mineral also..
FTC needs to talk to a geology professor.. if they meant to remove naturally occurring the need to remove mineral also..
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:except, they are flawless. again and again and again.
These stones have essentially the same optical, physical, and chemical properties as mined diamonds. Thus, they are diamonds.”
i even saw a debeers campaign saying 'you dont want a diamond thats TOO perfect' awhile back
these fricking guys
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:06 pm to Privateer 2007
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real diamond
Absolutely is a real diamond.
It's the diamond cubic allotrope of carbon.
Anybody saying it's not "real" is retarded.
Moreover, the actual time to create the stone is approximately the same in the ground or in the lab. The age of a stone in the earth prior to discovery is more a function of the time necessary to move through the crust of the Earth, not the physical process of heat and pressure that transforms the carbon into a clear cubic crystal.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:08 pm to CAD703X
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feel dirty being on mingo's side in this thread
Eh, neither are making the best of arguments. Even the Rolex one, the argument isn’t right. To be comparable, they have to warn you it isn’t a real Rolex. They don’t have to warn you about it being a watch or not. Similarly, they have to warn you it isn’t a natural diamond, but they don’t have to warn you about it being a ring or not. That is the correct comparison for the discussion at hand.
Regardless, it is such an irrelevant point because the diamond meets all the same specs as a natural one that people look at in a ring diamond. A fake Rolex does not do that for a watch.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:09 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Regardless, it is such an irrelevant point because the diamond meets all the same specs as a natural one that people look at in a ring diamond. A fake Rolex does not do that for a watch.
It’s supposed to be an absurd comparison, to point out the absurdity of his earnest argument
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:12 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I get that, but if you’re going to make the comparison to begin with, it should be done correctly. No use giving his absurd argument room to play semantics. 
. The argument you were making, the way you were trying to make it, actually agreed with his point.
. The argument you were making, the way you were trying to make it, actually agreed with his point. This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:28 pm to tigger4ever
If there were no differences between lab and natural diamonds, the diamond market would have collapsed. Also, if you couldn’t tell the difference, people would be buying lab grown diamonds and selling them to jewelers for huge profits. Fortunately you can tell because the internal structure is different and light refracts differently, they also have testers that can quickly tell what are real, natural diamonds.
Why waste money on lab diamonds when CZ is just as shiny? It’s like buying a more expensive fake Rolex to better pass the eye test so you can act like you are a player. It’s still not worth shite.
Why waste money on lab diamonds when CZ is just as shiny? It’s like buying a more expensive fake Rolex to better pass the eye test so you can act like you are a player. It’s still not worth shite.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:29 pm to rltiger
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Fortunately you can tell because the internal structure is different and light refracts differently
Where'd you hear that?
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:36 pm to JohnnyKilroy
From a gemologist. Growth patterns are different.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Their refraction and fluorescence under UV light is one of ways they are able to be identified. They act differently than mined ones.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:38 pm to danilo
I didn't say that i agreed with them. But of course that's what they would say.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:43 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
So you can't actually tell a difference without specialized equipment
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:43 pm to rltiger
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and light refracts differently
Where have you seen this? Everything I’m finding says lab diamonds have identical refraction to mined. Diamond stimulants like moissanite have different levels of refraction, but I’m not finding anything saying the same for lab diamonds.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
If you’re basing solely on light refraction, generally no, but that also would depend on the lab grown diamond. Some you probably good with a normal inspection of the jeweler is good enough. That isn’t the only way to identify them though.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:48 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Some you probably good with a normal inspection of the jeweler is good enough.
Not according to GIA.
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Because laboratory-grown diamonds are essentially chemically and optically the same as their natural counterparts, traditional gemological observations and old-style “diamond detectors” are not able to tell them apart. Identification at a professional gemological laboratory or using sophisticated devices developed by GIA and other organizations are the only reliable methods to separate them from natural diamonds.
Posted on 12/12/25 at 3:49 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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So you can't actually tell a difference without specialized equipment
You can’t tell the difference between a natural diamond, lab diamond or CZ ring with the naked eye either.
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