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re: Lab grown diamonds

Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:03 am to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:03 am to
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does piss me off that DeBeers still has their finger on the scales and lab diamonds should cost a fraction of a fraction of what they're still selling for


Yep

I don't have a way to quantify this statement but my feeling is that a 5ct flawless lab grown diamond could sell across the counter for about $50 and still be clearing big margins across the whole supply chain.

The reality is if they were that cheap women wouldn't really want them anymore.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:05 am to
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The reality is if they were that cheap women wouldn't really want them anymore.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13680 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:12 am to
Costco has good rings
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3573 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:12 am to
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the artificial diamonds are perfect


I was told that’s not the case. They can have the same impurities as natural diamonds.

I was told that experts can’t even tell the difference unless the artificial diamond is marked in some way or they have a very expensive machine (I can’t remember exactly- it’s been years since I purchased my wife’s lab diamond, which she loves).

It was a no brainer for me. Same quality diamond. Less expensive. More money for honeymoon. Wife was totally on board.
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31814 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:18 am to
Blood diamond and Lab diamond are the same thing. They are identical diamonds, just one grown in nature and one grown in a lab. 10 hardness.
Is a tomato grown in a garden somehow different than a tomato grown in a indoor hothouse?

Moissanite, Satéur, etc are a different gem entirely. They look nearly identical to diamonds but are not, from a chemical structure perspective, the same as a diamond. Less than 10 hardness.
Moissanite makes some nice looking jewelry but would not be appropriate for an engagement ring.
Sateur is much cheaper in every way - basically slightly better version of CZ.

CZ is worthless glass.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37943 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:19 am to
Women need to have social circle status. Unfortunately a price tag usually is what accomplishes that
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3862 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:20 am to
“Absolutely is a real diamond.
It's the diamond cubic allotrope of carbon”

Buy what you want.. but no it is not a real diamond.. the definition of a mineral is “ a naturally occurring inorganic homogeneous solid with a definite chemical composition and ordered atomic structure “

The key here is is naturally occurring..



Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3424 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:20 am to
Saw a report that the Russians have more diamonds in reserve than have been released. They could destroy the diamond market
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:24 am to
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Buy what you want.. but no it is not a real diamond.. the definition of a mineral is “ a naturally occurring


I don't give a shite what Websters thinks. They are chemically and structurally identical and therefor, the same thing.

What's more, the man made diamond posses every physical characteristic that makes diamonds desirable in the first place both for vanity and industrial uses. There's literally zero tangible reason to be mining natural diamonds in 2025.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10510 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:28 am to
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In my opinion Diamond engagement rings are often thoughtless gestures purchased because Madison Avenue is good at its job.


Yep.

Thankful my wife was OK with a lab grown diamond. She eventually wanted something a little bigger and used a family heir loom.

Get a chuckle out of the baws spending 5k+ and monthly insurance on a piece of jewelry
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37943 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:31 am to
And that os before they even get to the waste of money that is a wedding
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35764 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:31 am to
No wonder so many of you are in a bunch of debt.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42945 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:33 am to
My wife asked for the 3ct Lab diamond

Was like 50% of the 2ct real price. Looks better too in my opinion.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3862 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:34 am to
Buy what you want.. but just know it is distinguishable from a real one .. it will not appreciate ..

Be sure to gold plate that ring instead of buying a 24 k one also .

“Yes, jewelers can tell if a diamond is lab-grown, but usually not just by looking; they need special equipment to detect microscopic clues like laser inscriptions or unique growth patterns, as lab diamonds share identical chemistry and appearance with natural ones, passing basic diamond testers. Advanced machines analyze light, conductivity, and impurities, while laser engravings “
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31814 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:41 am to
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Buy what you want.. but just know it is distinguishable from a real one .. it will not appreciate ..


diamonds do not appreciate in value period. blood or lab.

the only way to tell the difference between the two is that lab will have a serial inscribed that require a high power microscope to read. otherwise they will pass any other diamond test because - spoiler alert - they are a diamond.

any other discussion about it is literally blood diamond propaganda
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10683 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:42 am to
Bruh. My wife is totally into these lab diamonds. They are real diamonds. There is no discernible difference.

She got 3 carat earrings for about $1,500 that would have cost $15,000 for "real" diamonds.

If your girl is into diamonds, these are legit.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4485 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:47 am to
Why not? Only way someone knows it lab grown is because the diamond is perfect. Non lab grown diamonds aren't rare either. Diamond companies buy countless diamond and placed them in huge safes to ensure market is limited. Worst investment ever made is buying a diamond from a jewelry company. they have great marketing and kept the stigma of lab grown diamonds until recently, Now lab grown diamonds are being bought left and right because there is no difference
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59165 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:52 am to
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Regardless must be solid gold ring

No, you need to look at her other jewelry and see if she wears gold, or prefers a different metal.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24770 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 9:56 am to
Marry the right woman, she would think spending lots on “real” diamonds is a dumb idea
Maybe women should grow the frick up and get over this diamond bullshite
This post was edited on 12/12/25 at 9:58 am
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10115 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:11 am to
I talked to a Lee Michael's buyer this week about this. The problem with lab grown is that they do not hold any value due to mass production and availability. Real diamonds aren't rare but limited in release. The buyer also said you will not be able to upgrade at a later date, if that's something you will be interested in. Her advise was buy the nicest real diamond you can afford for engagement ring. Earrings and other jewelry pieces are fine for lab grown.
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