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LA Nat'L Guard Sgt Major charged w/ wire fraud

Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:18 am
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:18 am
From NOLA.com:
A former sergeant major for the Louisiana Army National Guard has been indicted on federal fraud charges after U.S. attorneys say he lied on several official forms to gain supplemental pay from the federal government.

Randy M. Kiley Sr., 63, of Slidell was formally charged Thursday (Nov. 10) with two counts of wire fraud and two counts of making false statements, according to U.S. Attorney Kenneth A. Polite's office.

Kiley served as an Active Guard Reserve soldier in the Louisiana National Guard for 35 years, spending his last years of duty assigned to Jackson Barracks, the indictment shows. He retired in July 2014 as a Sergeant Major, the second-highest rank achievable by a non-commissioned officer.

Kiley is accused of lying about his marital status to receive increased Basic Allowance for Housing and Family Separation Allowance pay.

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Paging Ace Midnight...

This guy claimed he was married for ~10 years, when he was divorced, to gain extra housing pay. He also lied about the status of his dependent children at some point. Maximum sentence (not that he will get it) is up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

How much did he steal? Does BAH pay jump significantly for married soldiers? This all seems pretty dumb for what I guess is a few thousand extra dollars a year.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28290 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:20 am to
While deployed, I don't think unmarried soldiers receive BAH
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20373 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:21 am to
I think it's a significant amount of money. I have heard of dudes marrying someone prior to deploying just for the cash bonuses.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76124 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:30 am to
What a dumbass, his 2008 Community Partition Suit is available online from the St. Tammany Clerk of Court's site.

White people...

SMDH
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5695 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:34 am to
When deployed you get BAH if you can prove you rent or own a house. Separation pay is what you get if you are married and it's a pretty good pay increase

I know a few that married just to get that increase. And I know many many folks that made up fake lease agreements in order to receive BAH while deployed even though they were living with their parents

Murcia
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 7:36 am
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70117 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:37 am to
Gotta love the ucmj.

If he were the general of the la national guard he wouldn't face any consequences I bet.

I seriously doubt he serves any prison or pay any fines. If he were an e4 specialist he probably would
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5695 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:44 am to
Yep. Our unit had a bunch get busted with hash while in Afghanistan. Everyone e5 and above dropped one rank. E4s and below dropped to E1
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70117 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 7:54 am to
The only time I've heard of the brass getting a somewhat just punishment was this o5 who recently got busted for child porn.

I think he was sentenced to 20 years in Leavenworth.

I had my brigade CSM get a dwi about a month from deployment. He was forced to retire and collected his retirement pay of course. I actually saw him on Friday night before his dui charge buying two cases of beer
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11403 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:11 am to
Maybe he can change his name to Clinton before it's too late.
Posted by demtigers73
Member since Aug 2014
6208 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:22 am to
E9 BAH for Slidell for 10 years roughly $150,000

BAH rates vary from Zip and w/wo dependents



This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 8:55 am
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:29 am to
He also scammed some FSA money during 3 deployments, totaling about 36 months.

I had no clue that the differential between single and married BAH could be $1,250/month. I assumed it was maybe $500, max.


Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70117 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:43 am to
I think the writer is comparing it to the sergeant major of the army rank
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18419 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 8:57 am to
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Also, this is garbage, SGM/CSM = E9.


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Sergeant Major, the second-highest rank achievable by a non-commissioned officer


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Sergeant Major


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non-commissioned officer


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rank


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E9
is not a rank, it is a pay-grade. smart guy


Posted by demtigers73
Member since Aug 2014
6208 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:03 am to
I agree, I meant it as a E9 = SGM/CSM/SMA.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70117 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 9:17 am to
Gotcha
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:00 pm to
I did a little searching and found a website call military-ranks dot org. I have no idea how accurate it is, but it says a a SGM w/ early-mid 30 years in makes mid-80s in base salary.

It doesn't sound like this guy was driven to crime out of necessity, but more likely straight up greed. I know that there are shitbags in every profession, but this kind of stuff bums me out.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68233 posts
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

If he were the general of the la national guard he wouldn't face any consequences I bet.


No doubt. Just look at the recent NG history of top level corruption. They didn't face shite
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