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re: La. House to vote on recreational weed today. Updated with video link

Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by JustLivinTheDream
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:49 pm to
They want to legalize it, but they won't today because they still need to work out how to squeeze every penny out of it they possibly can. I fully expect Louisiana to have the most expensive recreational weed in the country when it does pass
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:54 pm to
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I fully expect Louisiana to have the most expensive recreational weed in the country when it does pass



Let it.

I'll ship my black market bud down there and sell it for 30% cheaper. I've still got connections like a motherfricker there.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:56 pm to
That’s not true at all. Just an arrest and you’re revoked 95% of the time. And if you aren’t revoked you’ll still sit several months in jail with a probation hold.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:11 pm to
And most of the time they're looking to violate people on paper anyways, thats the reality of having private prisons.

And if you think money doesn't get passed under the tables on that, then you're dumb enough to believe there is no corruption in Louisiana.


Hell its not even under the table, its out in the open.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:13 pm to
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That’s not true at all. Just an arrest and you’re revoked 95% of the time. And if you aren’t revoked you’ll still sit several months in jail with a probation hold.

Not my experience. The PO has 10 days to file a motion to revoke then the judge sets the date. If you are held depends on where you are and the parish prison population. I've only seen one misd revocation by trial in my many years and that was for agg assault. Most others are only revoked if they self revoke (stipulate) after conviction on the new charge (and rightfully so).

Someone early said you will get revoked if you piss hot. It COULD happen but is very unlikely. You would have many steps before that. Pot smokers love them some fear porn. The criminal justice system is a joke. This is how it is in MOST of the state, now you may have a few super conservative judges in a few parishes that have a low caseload and are super strict but that is not the norm. If they have a small caseload, that means they only have the ability to be tough on a small number of people relatively.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:21 pm to
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Not my experience.
what area btw? Not all louisiana is the same.
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Pot smokers love them some fear porn.
not in rural Louisiana, the fear is justifiable.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:22 pm to
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And most of the time they're looking to violate people on paper anyways, thats the reality of having private prisons


Most POs have between 120-150 "clients" and they usually sit in court for hours for just one case. They can barely keep up with the paperwork on the ones with new criminal conduct let alone the ones that have "technical violations."

What private prison are you talking about? There are only two in the state, Allen and Winn and they only hold 1,500 each. That's a drop in the bucket and they would be full if Louisiana was "tough on crime" or "light on crime."
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
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what area btw? Not all louisiana is the same.


I've worked all over Louisiana. Been in court in 20 parishes. As far north as Bossier and as south as Lafourche.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46111 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
I thought this thread was about the legalization vote today...
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
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Most POs have between 120-150 "clients" 
not everywhere and they like some more than others
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What private prison are you talking about? 

Over the years of wackenhutt, geo..etc

Its been a big issue for the past 20 years
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4353 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:27 pm to
What's the verdict? Don't need all your weed stories, let's get to the facts.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:27 pm to
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I thought this thread was about the legalization vote today...


And the paranoid fricks on this site want people to believe tons of people are doing hard-time or getting revoked on their probation for weed. It's just not true. Maybe in some small pockets for an unfortunate few but it's not happening en masse. The police aren't pulling you over to lock you up, seize everything you have, and make bank on your fine money for a joint.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49475 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
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What's the verdict? 
its unanimous, you're a homo.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9996 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:31 pm to
If they vote to legalize marijuana, will the menthol flavored packs still be illegal?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46111 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:33 pm to
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And the paranoid fricks on this site want people to believe tons of people are doing hard-time or getting revoked on their probation for weed.

dude i just want my weed store
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17593 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:34 pm to
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And the paranoid fricks on this site want people to believe tons of people are doing hard-time or getting revoked on their probation for weed. It's just not true. Maybe in some small pockets for an unfortunate few but it's not happening en masse. The police aren't pulling you over to lock you up, seize everything you have, and make bank on your fine money for a joint.



In Louisiana alone, there were almost 21,331 marijuana arrests in 2018, the vast majority of which were for possession. In 2018, marijuana possession arrests accounted for 51 percent of all drug arrests in Louisiana.

Overall national arrest rates have trended downward, however in Louisiana, marijuana possession arrests have actually increased 18.1% percent from 2010 to 2018.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4163 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:36 pm to
I got popped with 100 lbs. good times
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104075 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:37 pm to
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There are only two in the state, Allen and Winn and they only hold 1,500 each. 


The feds took over the one in Winn for an immigration holding facility.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23877 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:38 pm to
My god the House is a bunch of hicks. Every other bill is something about alcohol. Amazing we haven't figured out alcohol in 100 years since prohibition.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12536 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:39 pm to
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The posters acting like the police are going to break without the money relative to weed are being dramatic.

This is the problem with your entire contrarian shtick in this thread. You’re acting like it has to be some massive portion of the sheriffs’ budgets for them to be opposed to legalization.

Let me propose an alternative theory: the LA Sheriffs’ Association opposes any and all legislative changes that reduce:
1. The number of inmates in parish prisons,
2. The demand for the sheriffs’ services, or
3. The sheriffs’ ability to use selective enforcement as a pretext for further searches, seizures, and arrests.

It ultimately comes down to funding and power. The overwhelming sentiment in this thread is that the LA Sheriffs’ Association is opposing legalization with their own self-interests in mind rather than out of concern for public safety.

But despite your fine-print comments (supposedly) agreeing with this sentiment and (again supposedly) supporting legalization, you’re arguing with everyone about red herrings such as the exact asset forfeiture quantities during marijuana-specific arrests, or the technicalities of how fees/fines are disbursed.
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