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re: LA House passes bill banning hand help cell phones while driving

Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:23 am to
Posted by High C
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:23 am to
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Someone please forward this to Yogapants Soccer Mom in an 80 grand Mercedes SUV.


I tried. Her inbox was full.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:24 am to
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More than 3 years later, I still see drivers using their phones while driving.


That’s because they simply aren’t enforcing it, and yet it’s probably the biggest safety concern there is at this point in life, and causes more wrecks than anything, which should be of paramount importance to anyone living in Louisiana with all of our insurance rates.


I don’t see what the big deal is for people who don’t have a car equipped with Bluetooth. There’s a ton of after market kits out there to hook your vehicle up with hands free technology for 10-20 bucks and higher.

Here’s one from Walmart LINK with a charger.

This really isn’t too much to ask considering the safety concerns that come from driving and cell phones.


Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:28 am to
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I tried. Her inbox was full.
That’s the plan…

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14424 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:30 am to
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it wont change the way people do things
Drunk driving is illegal too. People still do it, but getting caught, at best, is very expensive. Enough so, that it probably cuts down on a lot of it.

I used to see someone weaving while driving, and think they were drunk. Now I just assume they are messing with their phone. Teenagers are the worst.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30422 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:30 am to
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holding and talking into her phone on speaker.

Those people are the worst


Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:32 am to
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it’s probably the biggest safety concern there is at this point in life, and causes more wrecks than anything, which should be of paramount importance to anyone living in Louisiana with all of our insurance rates.


I’ve been saying this for years. Probably ten times as many accidents caused by distracted by phone drivers than drunk drivers, but where is the focus?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:34 am to
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suggested the bill would put a burden on the poor by requiring them to buy new equipment


If someone can't afford to buy a phone holder for their car, they probably don't have really important phone calls to make or receive while driving
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56295 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:34 am to
Talking on a phone isn't the problem, it is texting.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8970 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:34 am to
I get where you’re coming from as far as the core sentiment, and I agree in principle with the need to minimize distractions. But the distinction between physically holding a cell phone and speaking through a Bluetooth system seems extremely arbitrary.

The portion of a phone conversation that most distracts you from the task of driving is the conversation itself; not the physical holding of a phone. Engaging in a conversation takes some degree of effort and attention. Holding something in my hand requires virtually none.

If the goal is to eliminate anything that causes a distraction, then shouldn’t we be banning all phone calls? And if we’re banning all phone calls, shouldn’t we likewise be banning any conversation between the driver and their passengers? Of course not. Because the goal isn’t to eliminate any and all distractions; the cost of that is too great.

The goal should be to eliminate those distractions which significantly increase the risk of driving a vehicle. And I’m not sure I buy an argument that having a verbal conversation on a phone rises to that level.

Now when frickers are texting, eating, and doing all this other stupid crap, then yea, let’s significantly up the penalties. But talking on a phone? Not sure I see a substantial difference between Bluetooth and a physical phone on this one.
Posted by SallyWheeler
Member since Dec 2007
3246 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:35 am to
FUN FACT: I wrote this bill for Youth Legislature circa 2001. It was the lowest ranked bill in any committee, making it the last possible bill to be discussed on the floor, which there was not enough time for.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 10:36 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14424 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:35 am to
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People often call me to ask whether I got an email or a text, and my
I have this issue all the time. I'm constantly telling people to call me if something is urgent. I still get texts when they know I'm driving, and a lot of times, it's important.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298087 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:36 am to
Just another reason for the police to have contact with the public.

Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20445 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:37 am to
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They cant even enforce the laws that stop people from texting while driving and they think they will enforce this?


They can’t enforce it because the current law as it’s written is very difficult to enforce.

If I’m a cop and I see you playing with your phone, I have to actually see a text message bubble or social media otherwise when I stop you you just say you were using Google maps and nothing I can do.
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1128 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:37 am to
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Texting is so much worse. They need to shut off text features while cars are in motion or something. I see people looking down and texting going 80 mph and weaving through traffic. But I don't hate this law. Who doesn't have bluetooth in 2021?



So what about the person in the passenger seat. Does their texting stop too?
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
59557 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:37 am to
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Talking on a phone isn't the problem, it is texting.


Don’t discount checking/posting on social media.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13162 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:39 am to
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But I don't hate this law. Who doesn't have bluetooth in 2021?


My car doesn’t have Bluetooth. But I can use headphones to talk on the phone
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175989 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:40 am to
What difference does holding a phone or talking through Bluetooth make? It not that you’re holding a phone. It’s that your mind is distracted.

More virtue signaling bullshite
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8970 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:42 am to
Headphones seems way more dangerous than just holding your phone
Posted by JoeyJoJo
The World
Member since Jun 2020
45 posts
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:43 am to
I see a few downvotes to OP. Nobody is saying your car has to have Bluetooth connections. They’re just saying you can’t hold your phone and talk while driving. This has been the law in Georgia for five years. Good law.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:43 am to
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I get where you’re coming from as far as the core sentiment, and I agree in principle with the need to minimize distractions. But the distinction between physically holding a cell phone and speaking through a Bluetooth system seems extremely arbitrary.


If it’s in your hands, you have to fiddle with it, but even more important, when it’s in your hands and a text comes over you are going to be more apt to begin worrying about the texts and not the road or vehicles in front of you.

I can say this with certainty, and I’m sure most everyone else can reaffirm this. When I see someone driving erratic, dragging their arse, not staying in their lane, or simply not paying attention when the light turns green, it is almost a 100% chance they are on that damn phone, either running their mouths, looking at it, or texting away. I know, because I verify it myself when I encounter it, and it happens all during the day.

Covid ain’t got shite on the dangers from the cell phone and driving.

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