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re: LA DMV locations fricked due to fire at state police data center

Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

the cloud


Can be expensive depending on what it is. The cloud is better for certain things, especially if they are publicly accessed over the Internet or at least accessed by people in different geographic regions. It's also good for storing static data and apps that have sharp peaks and valleys.

Putting a mainframe system like that in the cloud would be incredibly expensive and the system would be entirely dependent on your data connections to the cloud data centers in other states so it's not without risk.

Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:15 pm to
We installed the electrical system for this building a couple years ago. The design was supposed to be double redundant, multiple feeds, multiple generators, multiple UPS and was all tested every way possible. One of the UPS caught fire. We are there as we speak doing bypass work.

If there is a weak link in a chain it will show itself eventually. Still not sure what design flaw allowed this to happen.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:19 pm to
LSUHSC systems are down due to datacenter problems as well. Probably connected to this.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
48588 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:21 pm to
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That's the state's largest datacenter and there's s lot more than the DMV and state police in there now that it's consolidated across many state agencies. 

As an IT consultant who has seen a lot of what goes on I could say more but I'll just say that worse can and will happen.


Truth
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

LSUHSC systems are down due to datacenter problems as well. Probably connected to this.


EVERYTHING runs thru this system.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:22 pm to
So you're to blame!
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12507 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:23 pm to
So basically the DMV will be as efficient as any other day.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

So you're to blame!


All I was doing was cooking Gumbo....
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:25 pm to
Then bring me some for my troubles. Thanks.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40446 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

If there is a weak link in a chain it will show itself eventually


Didn't it show itself today?


(good response time BTW)
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49110 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:36 pm to
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What kind of half assed data center doesn't have fire suppression?


I'm willing to bet they have halon in the data center. But fire could have caused breakers to trip, servers down, etc. I am certain they have the data backed up and will be back online within 24-48 hours.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:37 pm to
Yeah, I can't access my data either, and I certainly don't work for the DMV.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:38 pm to
Yes it showed, problem is no one thought there was one.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

What kind of half assed data center doesn't have fire suppression?



I'm willing to bet they have halon in the data center. But fire could have caused breakers to trip, servers down, etc. I am certain they have the data backed up and will be back online within 24-48 hours.




This. You just can't dump shite on electrical components without major problems. Fire suppression would have not kept this from happening either........
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49110 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

This. You just can't dump shite on electrical components without major problems. Fire suppression would have not kept this from happening either........




Yeps. They use this shite here.
Here's a vid go to 1:40. It doesn't destroy the equipment. But it's expensive and very bad for humans.
Halon deployment in computer room
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:44 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40446 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:45 pm to
Good luck, man.

We've all been in the barrel.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17244 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

This. You just can't dump shite on electrical components without major problems. Fire suppression would have not kept this from happening either........


True that it wouldn't have kept THIS data center from going down, but once this one went offline everything should have failed over to the failover data center. That's IT infrastructure 101.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40446 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:46 pm to
Halon has been outlawed for awhile now.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27144 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

True that it wouldn't have kept THIS data center from going down, but once this one went offline everything should have failed over to the failover data center. That's IT infrastructure 101.


Agreed, and again, it is too early to say what the design flaw was at this time. We installed, not designed. This entire system was designed to never have failure..........you ever heard of the Titanic?
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60345 posts
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:53 pm to
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the failover data center


This is the state we're dealing with, many agencies can't afford to be too redundant.
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