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re: Kevin Gates destroys Black Lives Matter
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:38 pm to Dandy Lion
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:38 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:
You my friend, are a sad, envidious piece of shite that does not want to work, but wants all the benefits that come to those who work (if there´s an angle, and you´re angling, or at least advocating those that angle, then ´that´ll get it´, no?).
You have no way of knowing this... That's a pretty big assumption to make
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:39 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
How did u come to this conclusion? Just curious.
Once the personal attacks start. You've pretty much conceded the argument.
I´ve conceded nothing. I did make the mistake of equating your vehement inquisitiveness on behalf of, with you being part and pact of your supposed constituency.
For that I apologize in advance (supposing my previous suppostion indeed is true).
Methinks you´re a sharp person with a major chip on their shoulder deposited by others whose affectual and blood relationships impede your proper thinking.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:41 pm to Dandy Lion
My god man, wtf is wrong with you 
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:44 pm to Mr. Hangover
Let´s put it this way.
White trash, is white trash, what do you expect. No way they´re going to get ahead, they don´t care.
Black. It´s the man. Jackboot on the jugular. No chance.
Black people need to wake the frick up. You can be hired by the color of your skin, professionally be half of what´s required, be paid the same, and hope to get fired, and win a landslide lawsuit the equivalent of winning the lottery.
White trash, is white trash, what do you expect. No way they´re going to get ahead, they don´t care.
Black. It´s the man. Jackboot on the jugular. No chance.
Black people need to wake the frick up. You can be hired by the color of your skin, professionally be half of what´s required, be paid the same, and hope to get fired, and win a landslide lawsuit the equivalent of winning the lottery.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:48 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
I agree, their should be more outrage inside the black communities, when it comes to black on black crime.
Like I said earlier. I don't agree with everything BLM does or how it does it, but in no way do I find their movement negative. I think the hostility is coming from my Black Pride arguments. I never bad mouth whites or said anything about handouts for blacks. All I said was as a whole we need to do better as country of dealing with the less fortunate. If we truly believe all lives matters. A person can only pull his or her bootstraps up so far.
Like I said earlier. I don't agree with everything BLM does or how it does it, but in no way do I find their movement negative. I think the hostility is coming from my Black Pride arguments. I never bad mouth whites or said anything about handouts for blacks. All I said was as a whole we need to do better as country of dealing with the less fortunate. If we truly believe all lives matters. A person can only pull his or her bootstraps up so far.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:55 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
Honestly the REAL problem is that people don't know when to just shut the f*** up.. Period
I don't agree with homosexuality.. I don't agree with the BLM movement for the most part... I don't agree with a lot of shite but I keep my damn mouth shut out of respect for other people.. Too many people today wake up in the morning and look for ways to be offended by something.. And now it's so easy for everyone in the world to hear what anyone has to say, so everything is over sensationalized
People just need to relax, let everyone have their own space and do their own thing
ETA: this wasn't directed towards you kingfisher, just in general
I don't agree with homosexuality.. I don't agree with the BLM movement for the most part... I don't agree with a lot of shite but I keep my damn mouth shut out of respect for other people.. Too many people today wake up in the morning and look for ways to be offended by something.. And now it's so easy for everyone in the world to hear what anyone has to say, so everything is over sensationalized
People just need to relax, let everyone have their own space and do their own thing
ETA: this wasn't directed towards you kingfisher, just in general
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 10:58 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
we need to do better as country of dealing with the less fortunate. If we truly believe all lives matters. A person can only pull his or her bootstraps up so far.
This is true. Very true. It´s also a quasi communist and full on socialist statement for this country.
I´m only commenting on what I see, given today´s framework.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:06 pm to freeagent
quote:
But BLM is a movement standing up for people unjustly harassed and subsequently killed for not being trouble makers; due to the ignorance of the oppressor (which Kevin points out) but BLM is saying that ignorance and that harassment is not okay.
So the way to combat this is to burn cities to the ground? To walk up to innocent police officers and murder them in cold blood? To have retaliation killings on innocent people in general?
Do you see why nobody gives a frick about the BLM? When you promote your cause and lead it with violence, you are not providing an image that people want to associate with. When a large majority of your march participants are living off of government welfare, you will not have many supporters.
Every walk of life will have a crooked individual in it. CEO's, Managers, District Store Owners, co-workers, etc. There is not a single organization that has 100% accountability for their people at all time. BLM is using their "voice" to promote violence against anyone who opposes them, no matter the reason.
The BLM movement would be better served to march to the inner city where they are largely populated and start giving these growing kids something to look forward to in life aside from the next house they break into, or store they rob. These kids grow up with parents who don't care, do not instill discipline, and do not demand respect. So their kids are going out and breaking rules and basically looking authoritative figures in the eyes and saying "frick you, you can't tell me what to do." They need to shift their focus into improving the quality of lives for those individuals.
Until that is accomplished, nothing will change.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:18 pm to Hockamaw
I would have never expected him to speak like this. Wow.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:24 pm to Old Money
McKinley High
Posted on 2/18/16 at 11:27 pm to USAF Hart
quote:
But BLM is a movement standing up for people unjustly harassed and subsequently killed for not being trouble makers; due to the ignorance of the oppressor (which Kevin points out) but BLM is saying that ignorance and that harassment is not okay.
quote:
So the way to combat this is to burn cities to the ground? To walk up to innocent police officers and murder them in cold blood? To have retaliation killings on innocent people in general? Do you see why nobody gives a frick about the BLM? When you promote your cause and lead it with violence, you are not providing an image that people want to associate with. When a large majority of your march participants are living off of government welfare, you will not have many supporters.
This.
I don't know the people who started BLM. Sure, they may have had good intentions and didn't want it to go this way. Unfortunately a bunch of other blacks ruined it for them and that's what everyone sees. They see blind hypocrisy. Only showing outrage when it's a white vs black crime. Maybe that's just a by product of the world we live in with the stupid, ignorant people have just as loud a voice via social media. And that's for all races and it's a joke that stupid people get this much recognition
But the biggest problem in general is that we continue to label everything. Black this, white that, this Asian guy. Black QBs, white running backs, black actors, etc. The constant labeling of something by race only causes more separation
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:24 am to Hockamaw
Story time: I run late at night after I leave the office. A few weeks back it was freezing so I dressed up in cold weather gear (hoodie, sweat pants, face guard) essentially looked like a stereotypical burglar. Halfway through my run I noticed I was being followed by a police cruiser. As they pulled up next to me I pulled down my face guard, smiled, and waved. They gave me one look and told me to have a good night and continued driving.
Moral of the story: I love being a privileged white man and not having to deal with or care about this bulshit
Moral of the story: I love being a privileged white man and not having to deal with or care about this bulshit
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 12:25 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:28 am to StealthCalais11
No skittles or sweet tea?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:42 am to hg
so, yeah, did anyone catch the host's name? that's the only important part, really...
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:05 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
from my Black Pride arguments
This is the issue. "Black" pride and "Black" lives matter.
Why is it that
white pride = racism
but
black pride = we just want to be treated better.
That's bullshite. Blacks are not the only minority in America, however I never hear any other race doing this shite.
Blacks only have one channel? And you don't watch it? Then why the frick do you want any more channels? Are you fricking with me?
There isn't a single entertainment channel that's geared towards the entertainment of whites. Well, the show "Cops" might be, but that's beside the point.
And if we're calling BET a black channel, it's not even owned by a black person. Viacom owns it.
That's right, a white guy owns BET.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 1:06 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:47 am to Real Pirate
I never said anything about blacks having more channels. You guys arguments are so stereotypical and shows so much ignorance. It's laughable how you guys put blacks in one big box and label us all the same.
The people with the power divide us, by using color and gender as the tools that keep us separated and blind as they continue to prosper. The real issue is income equality. Once the masses realize this and come together maybe we can finally move forward, and become the great country I call home.
Black pride is about loving yourself despite the negative connatations or stereotypes that are thrown upon you. It's all about embracing our differences while respecting other who may be different.
I know the temperature of the OT, so
I know most of u will never understand. Your mindsets goes back generations and are afraid to think outside the box. For example, I was raised a Christian, but as I got older and I formed my own opinion about religion.
The people with the power divide us, by using color and gender as the tools that keep us separated and blind as they continue to prosper. The real issue is income equality. Once the masses realize this and come together maybe we can finally move forward, and become the great country I call home.
Black pride is about loving yourself despite the negative connatations or stereotypes that are thrown upon you. It's all about embracing our differences while respecting other who may be different.
I know the temperature of the OT, so
I know most of u will never understand. Your mindsets goes back generations and are afraid to think outside the box. For example, I was raised a Christian, but as I got older and I formed my own opinion about religion.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:09 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
I never said anything about blacks having more channels. You guys arguments are so stereotypical and shows so much ignorance. It's laughable how you guys put blacks in one big box and label us all the same.
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quote:
Pretty much every channel on TV is catered towards whites. Why is it a problem that blacks have one channel, which we hardly watch. Mexicans have numerous channels and I never hear anyone complaining about Telemundo.
There isn't a single "white entertainment" channel out there and you know there would be a fricking dark uproar if someone created a network with that name.
But if a white person criticizes a "pro black" organization, well it's just racism then.
Eta: And just what in White Jesus's name do you mean by "you guys"?
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 2:15 am
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:03 am to Spankum
Hahaha this thread is a bunch of shite. Bunch of people slobbin on Kevins knob because he says blm doesn't matter. Someone in this thread said you should care about Gates if you are from BR because he is the biggest musician to ever come from BR. I am from BR. I don't give two shites about him. He's just another person voicing his opinion, why put him on a pedestal? If Lindsey Pelas came out and said white lives don't matter should we have a thread go 6 pages? And yes, I am comparing Lindsey and Gates.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:14 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
Mexicans have numerous channels and I never hear anyone complaining about Telemundo.
So you label every Hispanic as a "Mexican". Gee, that isn't racist at all! There are many Hispanic channels because they speak a different language and/or are bilingual. What a silly and stupid comparison.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:21 am to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
quote:
Black pride is about loving yourself despite the negative connatations or stereotypes that are thrown upon you
It's not an issue to take pride in yourself and your culture. It's a different thing all together to take pride in what causes the negative connotations and stereotypes. And this is obviously a broad net to cast and I obviously don't think every minority should be treated as if they act this way. But, many take pride in the "gangster" culture, dressing like they come from the bad side of town, speaking as if they are uneducated, etc.. These are the things that are known to be associated with crime and violence. It is not a culture that belongs to the black community. It is a cancer in any community that it exists. As you said, income inequality is the perpetuator of this class difference. But the cause for the income inequality is due to the culture (education, parenting, social norms allowed in these run down communities). This culture was created relatively recently due to the poor conditions a segment of society was dealt. I understand that. But the best way to get out of that is to drop that culture. There's a lot of black culture that can be held on to, but there's quite a bit that can be dropped as well. And that's not limited to the black community. Trust me there are some white cultural things I wouldn't mind seeing fall by the wayside either.
Due to racial tensions, I think we are trying to be forced to accept this "culture". Not to accept the crime and violence, but to accept the dress, speech, etc. because it's just the culture of the black community. And we are racist if we stereotype that as bad. I think you are never going to get people to do that.
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