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re: Justice Department: States Should Not Jail Poor People Over Fine Nonpayment

Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

You are the first person here to call me smart.


What's he win?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:04 pm to
true, but we're also talking about road signs, camel toe, yogagirl's iq, and other shite. I'm not going to pretend it was outside the scope of our current discussion.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:04 pm to
Only on the OT can a decent conversation about fines in the US turn into 5 pages of the opinions of 4 posters on camel toe.

I can't say I'm disappointed though.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:09 pm to
Gotta say that those 4 or 5 have an avg post count of about 90,000.

Being bored is deadly.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:25 pm to
It is nothing but fricking money making scheme. Kid gets caught shoplifting because he is poor needs baby food. gets 1500 fine to state. fricking why? How was the State hurt?
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:28 pm to
and I have been robbed a ton, despite all the bullshite and a few orders I have never gotten a penny of restitution. The State has made thousands off of me being robbed. Explain that shite.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Member since Jan 2007
56773 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:38 pm to
Shouldn't jail nonviolent offenders?

bullshite. Wait til some one defrauds you out of your life's savings. Completely non violent
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91300 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:42 pm to
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bullshite. Wait til some one defrauds you out of your life's savings. Completely non violent


I understand, but at the same time, you'll never get that money back if the perp is sitting in the county jail. Put his arse to work and garnish his wages for restitution.

It isn't perfect but I think your consequences should go towards righting a wrong rather than paying a fine to the state or lining the pockets of a privately owned prison.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Member since Sep 2007
148057 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:50 pm to
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and I have been robbed a ton,

How's the saying go?..... Rob me once, shame on you.... Rob me twice, shame on me.... Rob me a ton, frick my life....
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
84348 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:51 pm to
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and I have been robbed a ton, despite all the bullshite and a few orders I have never gotten a penny of restitution. The State has made thousands off of me being robbed. Explain that shite.



Maybe you should start protecting yourself, brah.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Kid gets caught shoplifting because he is poor needs baby food. gets 1500 fine to state. fricking why? How was the State hurt?


The state is hurt because civilized societies can't tolerate thievery. But most inner cities nowadays don't qualify as civilized society, so your point stands.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 2:57 pm to
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i thought we both agreed that you were smart and sexy as frick, too


GAME!
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11569 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:19 pm to
For all the people saying it's just poor scumbags, beware.

Get married, have 2.5 kids, get divorced. Pay lawyer, pay bills, pay child support.

I have a couple divorced buddies that make a lot money and are pretty dam poor. Low income people get F'd on the reg, the middle class laughs. The middle class get F'd on the reg, money wise.



Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:55 pm to
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Explain that shite.


Well you typically have to apply for the restitution. Have you?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57782 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:33 pm to
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The Justice Department is discouraging state court systems from jailing defendants who fail to pay fines or fees, warning against practices that it says run afoul of the Constitution and erode community trust.


Why stop at poor people? If anyone should be able to get away with breaking the law it's the people that pay the taxes that fund the salaries of law enforcement.
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 4:34 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:44 pm to
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alright if someone is willing to pay, if not then community service is better than locking someone up.


What do we do if they won't do the assigned community service?
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