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re: Just great: LSU student athletes driving AAAS course requirement

Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:42 am to
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10986 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 5:42 am to
Minus a few studies and degrees college is huge waste of money any way.

I seriously wish other forms of training would be available for the few careers that need college and we do away with the entire college system.

Maybe then young adults will not be indoctrinated into liberalism and be thousands in debt before they are 25.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:13 am to
Could I pick a class that Domonique Davis has to take?
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:23 am to
And just like that I am done with LSU.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:25 am to
I didn't mind that class at all. The unit on Babar was pretty interesting.
Posted by Van Wilder
Member since Jul 2014
248 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:40 am to
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I took one in college. Was 1 of 3 white people in the class. Professor was cool af, we played basketball at the rec together a ton. I was also 1 of 5 who didn’t get an F on the midterm and final. That’s all i got


He was a terrible professor and the curriculum was a joke.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 6:44 am to
#LSUWOKE
Posted by slaphappy
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2005
2372 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:14 am to
When I was at LSU in the 70s, we were required to take Books and Libraries which was very practical unlike this crap.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17448 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:17 am to
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we were required to take Books and Libraries which was very practical unlike this crap.


Do libraries exist anymore? And if they do, for what purpose?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120049 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:22 am to
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And just like that I am done with LSU.





You pussies are so stupid. History is a required course on most curriculums right? Its just going to be another bullshite class that students will not give a frick about. Most people will have to take some bullshite classes as electives anyway..

I took gender studies as an elective. I would have rather taken AAAS or whatever that that pile of shite. The only thing I learned in that class was that women use to used Lysol to douche.

I made a C in the class because half way through I decided to only go to class once a week.
Posted by CasualBystander
Member since Apr 2019
154 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:50 am to
College is a huge waste of money? ??

LINK
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15802 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:50 am to
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You pussies are so stupid. History is a required course on most curriculums right?


No it’s not, pussy
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15802 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 7:52 am to
Soooo, what was the outcome???? Anybody know???
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:02 am to
That’s just part of it.

I graduated in four years, including three summers of full time classes, to get my degree and minor I wanted.

Having to shoehorn in a horseshite “core requirement” that would do nothing but infuriate me through the propaganda pushed by the class would have caused my blood pressure to spike.


I accept university core requirements that make sense like certain maths, writing, history, etc.

This is just political bullshite that some people are pushing for woke points and the AA Studies department is pushing because it justifies their goddamn salaries.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:18 am to
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I accept university core requirements that make sense like certain maths, writing, history, etc.


So have a Black Studies requirement but also have a European History requirement. The problem is that the people pushing the former often want to do away with the latter. They also want to put their own spin on both classes that isn't justified. Both curricula should be carefully constructed in an even-handed manner. All civilizations have followed and are following a very similar journey, and if taught correctly these two classes would complement and reinforce each other.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:22 am to
Degree programs, depending on the school, are about 128 credit hours for a four year degree and many schools which have core requirements aren’t allowed to have over half those hours as a university core.

If they want to change the history requirement to allow a choice of the current history class or this class, that is one thing. As some schools will have a requirement of X hours in a group but you choose from set classes. But making it a requirement in place of a useful class is horseshite.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:27 am to
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History is a required course on most curriculums right?

Wrong. A list of approved electives is given for you choose what to take. You’re not required to take history.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10986 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:48 am to
You are just assuming college is the ONLY option for training.

Right now it is the most common but if alternative means of education were available, like in the skilled labor sector, then there would be no need for college for the vast majority of the workforce..
Posted by CasualBystander
Member since Apr 2019
154 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 12:14 pm to
There are plenty of alternatives, and most people take them. 23% of Louisianans have a bachelor's degree or higher. We lead the nation in "skills" training. You will find a significant percentage of those with skills credentials do well, but the median income by credential (no high school, high school, some college, certificate, associate's degree, bachelor's degree, graduate degree, professional degree) increases on a virtually straight line. As technology continues to replace manual, repetitive work, the college wage premium will increase.
Posted by Fessface
Member since Sep 2019
276 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:14 pm to
They want to make it a general education requirement in the social sciences. In other words, instead of something useful like economics, you'll have to take an anti anti-blackness course. Here'tis:

LSU A&M FACULTY SENATE RESOLUTION 20-05

Confronting Anti-Blackness by Ensuring Undergraduate Access to Antiracist Curricular Offering

Sponsored by Faculty Senators Profs. Sonja Wiley and Cassandra Chaney

Whereas in the wake of the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, Philando Castile, Stephon Clark, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Atatiana Jefferson, Alton Sterling, Elijah McClain, and too many other Black people, the nation’s largest protest movement in recent history unfolded across the country to demand an end to the institutionalized racism and the pervasive anti-Blackness that injures and kills;
Whereas this is a moment in which the country is engaging in a long-delayed reckoning with the ways it has been built on anti-Blackness, and in which Louisiana, Baton Rouge, and our university are challenged to confront the potency and destructive power of anti-Blackness in everyday life;
Whereas LSU has committed itself to the truth that Black lives matter and has further dedicated itself to becoming an anti-racist institution [1];
Whereas students are expressing the desire to be more well prepared for the world in which they will live and work, including the students of the Black Student-Athlete Association who have advocated for expanded curricular discussions related to social and racial injustice[2];
Whereas LSU strategic plan seeks to inculcate cultural adeptness as a core value, and that its pillars all involve, in some way, grappling with the legacies of systemic and structural racism;
Whereas dismantling and disrupting racism demands conscious and intentional decisions about how we center antiracism in our curriculum;
Whereas research suggests that the overwhelming majority of high school students in the United States are not instructed in the true history of African enslavement, in the role of slavery in American history, and in its continuing effects in American social life, nor are students adequately instructed on the important contributions of African Americans to Louisiana and American history[3];
Whereas statistics tell a stark story of the way the study of African Americans’ contributions to Louisiana and American history is under-represented in higher education. The percentage of LSU students identifying as Black or African American has grown from 8.8% in Fall 2009 to 13.3% in Fall 2019, with
14.5% of Degree-Seeking First Time Freshmen (N=887) identified as Black or African American in Fall 2019, and that our increasingly diverse freshmen classes will continue to increase the share of students identifying as Black or African American, in line with national demographic trends in the race/ethnic composition of future cohorts of college attendees, coupled with a heightened attentiveness to recruiting more diverse pools of students. At the same time, African Americans are 34% of Louisiana’s population. And yet, there are no public colleges or universities in Louisiana that currently offer an independent BA in African & African American Studies (AAAS) [4]. LSU is in the process of seeking to be the first, in making the Program in African and African American Studies a department, and a curricular commitment to the study of Black and African American history and experience would cement LSU as a leader in the state;
Whereas, as the Statement from the Consortium of Chairs and Directors of Black Studies in the Southeastern Conference, which was drafted this summer points out, “Black, Africana, and African Studies continue to be the most viable academic solutions to this crisis and the ongoing national and global crises continuing to undermine our entire educational system,” and that “our systems must invest rather than continue to divest the kind of real support that matters, because as Black Lives Matters, #blackstudiesmatter” [5];
Whereas the Integrative Learning Core builds students’ proficiency in areas including global learning and in intercultural knowledge and competence, but does not guarantee that students will be challenged to confront the anti-Blackness so central to United States history, and its palpable legacies as they manifest in the present [6];
Whereas AAAS2000 supplies students with opportunities to studying Black experience in the US, and equips students with the tools for identifying and combating anti-Blackness, which has played such a specific and immense role in the history of the state of Louisiana and our university, and thereby helps students begin the process of identifying and combating the many forms of intersecting oppression that characterize 21st-century United States life;
Whereas the spring 2020 Diversity and Inclusion Roadmap Report, produced by a robust committee of faculty, staff, and students, recommends a diversity and inclusion core requirement for all degrees [7];
Whereas a subcommittee of the Academics group from the summer 2020 Inclusion, Equity, and Diversity leadership retreat and task force deliberated this recommendation in consultation with faculty experts, including faculty experts on the subjects of race and racism;
Whereas other universities are in the process of deliberating or implementing required courses that center on ending anti-Black racism (e.g. Yale and the University of Pittsburgh)[8];
Whereas the Office of the President and the Office of the Provost have expressed their support for this resolution, and have committed to supplying the necessary resources for its implementation;
Now therefore be it resolved that the LSU Faculty Senate endorses requiring that AAAS 2000 be one of the courses each undergraduate completes in satisfying their ILC obligations.
Posted by LSU2001
Cut Off, La.
Member since Nov 2007
2388 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:31 pm to
According to the following link the resolution was withdrawn when a motion was made to create a committee to study the course or something to that effect. The sponsors withdrew the resolution instead of going into a "stalling tactic" according to the sponsors.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 1:33 pm
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