re: Just a thought - The Immaculate Conception

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He doesn’t have any verse(s). He’s too busy looking for autocorrects. He’s stalling and changing the subject.

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You realize that Grizzly was not responding to me, right?

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Catholics worship Mary,

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No, they don't.

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Nah, it's probably most.

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Then that's a lot of wrong scholars. I think the only letter whose authorship can't be confirmed is Hebrews... and most likely it was Paul.

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Then that's a lot of wrong scholars. I think the only letter whose authorship can't be confirmed is Hebrews

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I'd love to see that confirmation.

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It’s the dumbest story ever believed. Speculating about a fairy tale may be even dumber, though.

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Thank you for your insightful input. It certainly weas riveting.

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Speculating about a fairy tale may be even dumber, though.

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This thread is full of people who believe some fairy tales telling other people that their fairy tales are ridiculous.

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I don't think she did. And there is literally nothing in the Bible stating otherwise.

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Let's get into the weeds with this one.

The word used by the angel Gabriel in Luke's gospel to describe Mary was "kekaritomene," a hapax legomenon. It's a word that was created specifically to describe her. Kecharitomene is also different from the word used to describe someone who is simply granted or saved by grace. That word is "echaristosen."

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Grammatically, the word kecharitomene is the feminine present perfect passive voice participle of a verb, specifically, the Greek verb ?a??t?? (charitóo).  In the passive voice, the verb means to have been made graceful, to have been endowed with grace. 

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Not only that, it was given as her title, in place of her name, after the word "Hail" (which is where we get the praise for Mary, but not worship, which is another critique I've seen in this thread.) So for lack of a better way to say it, we have "hail, full of grace;" but in its original sense it's much closer to "Hail, the one known as Full of Grace, which was bestowed only to you and exists in perpetuity." That one's a little bit wordier.

That's where just one of the arguments for the Immaculate Conception comes from in scripture.

ETA: some sources in case you're interested in more reading on the subject:
Where Is the Immaculate Conception in the Bible? -Catholic Answers

Hail Mary: Kecharitomene, A Unique Word for a Unique Lady -Catholic Online

Discussion of kecharitomene translation -Hermeneutics Stackexchange

Here's a brief and informative article for your edification.

It's from Catholic Answers

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No worries! These mysteries have been debated for 2000 years, we ain't gonna solve it on a college football forum it is fun to discuss though

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But because you incite people to express their most disgusting thoughts often blaspheming which is detrimental to their souls. Some people cannot help themselves- they may not be fully culpable- yet it is still a wound.

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You know what the two drunks told Jesus?

You keep dropping that cross and they are going to kick you out of this parade.

Yes you are wrong. For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Including Mary