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re: Jussie Smollett Case - All Charges Dropped - Update

Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:30 am to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:30 am to
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Chicago police are investigating the brutal incident as a hate crime.



How brutal is an “attack” that only scratches you?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29914 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:52 am to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:54 am to
Pretty sure that would leave more than a scratch.
Posted by Obtuse1
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29914 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 1:59 am to
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Pretty sure that would leave more than a scratch.


The point of a blanket party is to case little or no visible damage.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:02 am to
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The point of a blanket party is to case little or no visible damage.
While in uniform. You're not going to pummel someone repeatedly like that with soap bars in a sock and not leave serious bruising.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26123 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:19 am to
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When officers showed up at the apartment, the rope was still around Smollett’s neck, said [police spokesman] Guglielmi, who described the rope as a “thin, light rope.” Guglielmi said the rope didn’t necessarily resemble a noose.


So dude was wearing a hemp necklace when he went out that evening?


Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29914 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:19 am to
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You're not going to pummel someone repeatedly like that with soap bars in a sock and not leave serious bruising.


While they did use soap in FMJ, oranges or a golf ball wrapped in a couple more socks do a much better job of leaving no traces.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:24 am to
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While they did use soap in FMJ, oranges or a golf ball wrapped in a couple more socks do a much better job of leaving no traces.
Before I go any further down the 'blanket party' rabbit hole I just want to clarify why we're discussing it. Were you just trying to make an off-hand point with the FMJ gif or are you suggesting that he might have been beaten with oranges (or golf balls)?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:26 am to
The length people go is laughable
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:30 am to
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While they did use soap in FMJ, oranges or a golf ball wrapped in a couple more socks do a much better job of leaving no traces.

Also, if they were so concerned with not leaving evidence of the attack, dousing him in bleach and sending him off with a noose around his neck seem like tactical errors.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 2:32 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29914 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:49 am to
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Were you just trying to make an off-hand point with the FMJ gif or are you suggesting that he might have been beaten with oranges (or golf balls)?


First, I think this is wholly fiction until it is proven otherwise.

Second, while I was not suggesting he got a blanket party on Chicago streets in sub-zero weather there was a modicum of truth in my post in that one can take a helluva beating and only show a scratch on the face especially prior to bruising developing from body blows. Do I think that is what happened, no, but the lack of visual damage to the face is not proof that it didn't.

Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:51 am to
Ok. That's why I asked before wading in.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
29914 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:57 am to
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Also, if they were so concerned with not leaving evidence of the attack


Even in the remote case, I wasn't suggesting "they" were attempting to limit visual damage, my point was in response to you saying a blanket party would leave a lot of damage, when the point of a "proper" blanket party is to prevent visual evidence.

Again, I am not suggesting anything like this actually happened just pointing out what does not rise to my standard of proof that something did not happen. This is a case, however, where I feel there needs to be proof that it did happen before I am moved.
Posted by Juris Dawg
Jacksonville
Member since Jul 2010
127 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:59 am to
I live in Indiana just outside of Chicago, if this supposedly happened in rural Indiana, or Illinois, I might believe it, but not in the loop Chicago at 2am.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:04 am to
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, my point was in response to you saying a blanket party would leave a lot of damage, when the point of a "proper" blanket party is to prevent visual evidence.

I understand your point. My point is that a blanket party 'prevents visual evidence' because the evidence is concealed by clothing most of the time. Not because it doesn't leave marks.

In any case, it's veering off-topic.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30466 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:08 am to
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UPDATE: Chicago police have confirmed a @TMZ report to @ABC that a neighbor of Smollett's did come forward with information. Her description of a man she said she saw with a rope of some kind was "significantly different" than one provided by Smollett.


lol
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:48 am to
I’ll go on record...

It’s going to be 2 black men that tried to rob him and used a piece of rope to strangle him

No MAGA men
No nooses
Definitely a botched grinder hookup
Maybe a footlong meatball sub with light mayo

He didnt want to tell security, “hey I was going to meet up with some random guys to get fricked in the arse and they jumped me”. Later he calls his agent who creates the plan to say it was homophobic MAGA men with a noose.



Plot twist: he told them to bring the rope to tie him up
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:56 am to
Trump actually had to waste time answering a question on this yesterday.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:01 am to
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meatball sub with light mayo
is this a thing?
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8188 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 7:14 am to
Has this dude been fired yet for filing a false police report?
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