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re: June 12, 2025: Air India 787 Dreamliner crashes in the city of Ahmedabad

Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:26 am to
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:26 am to
It looks to be about five miles from the end of the runway. There are a ton of hospitals and clinics in the direct flightpath though, so it could be longer.

ETA, Estimating the point the taxiway intersects the runway to the SW end of the runway at approx 5k feet.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:26 am to
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Absolutely hilarious this objectively true post gets downvoted.


Not sure any of those words mean what you think they do. Boeing built an objectively good and safe plane with the Dreamliner. Blaming Boeing here is objectively stupid at this point.
Posted by poncho villa
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:29 am to
So the Indians are taking over the UK and now they are killing britons ?
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:29 am to
This.

The "objectively true" takeaway is to avoid IndiaAir at all costs.

Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:29 am to
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don't disagree, I'm just saying that's what other information said. So maybe they were wrong. I guess being in the air for 30 seconds is still "being airborne for less than five minutes".


Yet you claim that the flaps would have been retracted (obviously) but not the landing gear.......
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:34 am to
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Not sure any of those words mean what you think they do. Boeing built an objectively good and safe plane with the Dreamliner. Blaming Boeing here is objectively stupid at this point.


I think both sides of this 'argument' is being missed by both parties.

Yes the Dreamliner is a good aircraft but it's made by Boeing....can we all agree that Boeing hasn't had the best press the last few years? The public won't really care about the 'cause' of the crash but will just blame the plane.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:35 am to
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The public won't really care about the 'cause' of the crash but will just blame the plane.


Public ignorance will never influence my opinion on something
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:37 am to
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Public ignorance will never influence my opinion on something


Yeah but realize how many stupid people are in the world.....
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:38 am to
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Yeah but realize how many stupid people are in the world.....


Well they won't ever be educated if you don't point out how flawed their thinking is.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 8:40 am
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:38 am to
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The plane looks like it was just falling out of the sky.


That's because it was
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:42 am to
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Yet you claim that the flaps would have been retracted (obviously) but not the landing gear.....


I'm claiming that every flight I've been on had the flaps retracted within the first minute or so after takeoff...when I was operating off the assumption it was airborne for ~5 minutes. Suggesting, of course, that it would've been possible for it to take off with the flaps extended but they had already been retracted.

In my last post, I believe responding to you, I acknowledged that it may have been in the air well less than five minutes, as "even 30 seconds in the air would be less than 5 minutes airborne". At no point did I comment on the landing gear.

We good now?
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 8:42 am
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:43 am to
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That's because it was


Right. That reply was to a poster who asked if it was a suicide pilot.
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:46 am to
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At no point did I comment on the landing gear.


I was trying to explain that if the flaps had been retracted why wasn't the landing gear. That shows how 'soon' after takeoff this was.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:46 am to
If you watch any travel bloggers videos about their non fatal experiences on Air India, Pakistan International Airlines, etc., you'd never go near an airline chartered out of that part of the continent. Singapore Air, Malaysia, anything would be better. The catering and filthy aircraft (even newer ones) tell you a lot.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:48 am to
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It crashed into a dormitory used by doctors also.

Is the building gonna collapse like the world trade center towers?
Posted by jcaz
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:09 am to
I have a hard time believing they took off without flaps extended. The plane would have been yelling at them. But lack of flaps could cause a sink issue on a hot and heavy day.
I’m still betting there was a loss of thrust issue. Whatever happened was immediate because gear was still down and the mayday came quick. Maximum altitude reported by the data was 625 feet.
Posted by dupergreenie
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:19 am to
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have a hard time believing they took off without flaps extended. The plane would have been yelling at them.


The PIA crash a few years ago the Captain tried landing the plane with the gear up and the plane was screaming at them as they tried landing several times.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:20 am to
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If you watch any travel bloggers videos about their non fatal experiences on Air India, Pakistan International Airlines, etc., you'd never go near an airline chartered out of that part of the continent. Singapore Air, Malaysia, anything would be better.


Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:25 am to
PIA is on a whole other level than even Air India. Which is saying something.
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:26 am to
Maybe an auto throttle issue?
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