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re: Judge gives guy 50 years no parole for drug charge

Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:21 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296382 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:21 pm to
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Legalize and regulate heroin? You're shitting me right?


Why not? Is prohibition working?
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:21 pm to
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This 50 year sentence isn't just predicated on the heroin case. Get your facts straight.





Even when you factor in the parole violation, that judge basically handed that guy a mandatory life sentence for something that didnt injure anyone. That's fricking insane man. No way is that logical at all. The guy will most likely die in prison.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:22 pm to
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The defendant was on probation for aggravated assault with a firearm. I assume that Louisiana has some form of sentencing guidelines where prior records are heavily weighted in determining a sentence


When you are on probation, you don't mess up period. I mean don't do anything.

You get hauled into court while on probation for a crime, especially something as severe as this, you better just bend over and pull your pants down because the judge is going in dry and with the full weight of the law
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:23 pm to
Not dying left and right....yet.

It's coming though.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:24 pm to
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Find me a case where a numbnuts w/ no priors, especially violent ones, is receiving a long sentence.

Or where a first-time offender is getting thrown in jail for a long period...

I'll wait.


Dude, are you really so trusting of a judge that you are willing to gamble on him not giving someone with no priors the max sentence? Your questions is patently ridiculous. The possibility is always there for a first time offender to get the max, the fact that the 50 sentence even exists in the first place is archaic at best.

This is a very good example of what happens with shitty people have power over someone. They impose their personal and moral beliefs on folks they have never in their fricking life had to interact with.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:25 pm to
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I would imagine a lot more adults


You think people are just going to go all shooting up heroin if it were made legal tomorrow?

Lol no.

I can't name one person I know that I can honestly say would start doing heroin if it were legal now.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48997 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:25 pm to
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What's the downfall of making heroin legal?


You know the ONLY difference between the opium sources for heroin and pharmaceuticals?

One crop has US taxpayer-funded guards with better weapons and technology.

Big Pharma will never let opium become legal.

Posted by N2cars
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Member since Feb 2008
37946 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:25 pm to
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The guy will most likely die in prison.


As a nation, we are fed up with crime, especially from repeat offenders.

Eff this guy.

I am actually not opposed to legalizing all this crap-stupid people will still be stupid, but you picked the wrong guy to use as an example.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5326 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:26 pm to
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Not saying the sentence is fair but laws are laws.

If you want them changed then keep trying until then if someone breaks said law then they deserve the consequences.

I'm not arguing against legalization just that because you don't like a law or think it should be a law doesn't mean you can break it without consequence


Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48997 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:26 pm to
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I can't name one person I know that I can honestly say would start doing heroin if it were legal now.




Not meeee. I've had so much access to heroin in last 4 years around the pizza place. I've been black out drunk with some of those fools after work and wouldn't touch that shite.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:27 pm to
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Legalize and regulate it


Yay!! Why not legalize and regulate arson and incest as well? If we legalize and "regulate" everything then there won't be any crimes!!! Yay!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296382 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:27 pm to
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Big Pharma will never let opium become legal.




Legally protected dealers. They've got it made
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27576 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:28 pm to
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this is in reaction to the escalating OD rate in Baton Rouge


Which almost always involves other drugs, usually benzos and/or alcohol.



Heroin stocks are through the roof!! The minute Vicodin became a schedule 2 narcotic. Made vicodin much more pricey, made oxycodone probably astronomical, and cheap old dirty assed heroin still sits there. Since 1900.

Thank you Bayer Pharmaceuticals.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:29 pm to
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Not dying left and right....yet.

It's coming though.


I got news for you, heroin has been around a long long time and it hasn't come yet. Sure, people die from overdoses but they are almost always in conjunction with other drugs.

Heroin is not the problem. It has never been the problem. People act like they are doing something noble by condemning junkies when in reality they aren't doing shite about the actual problem. This judge went home, did his personal drug of choice, jerked off, and went to sleep thinking he took a criminal off the street. As if he is going us some kind of favor. It's absurd.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:30 pm to
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Your questions is patently ridiculous


Great retort.


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The possibility is always there for a first time offender to get the max, the fact that the 50 sentence even exists in the first place is archaic at best.


It is there to lock up this a-hole who is determined to go through life being a TPOS.

At least Google the crime rate over the last 20-30 years.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:30 pm to
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, and went to sleep thinking he took a criminal off the street


Well he kind of did


Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25343 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:31 pm to
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But its a personal choice

They are going to get it anyway

If it was legal we could tax it

What an individual does is no one else's business

This is a non violent crime so no reason for a harsh sentence

Why should tax payers pay for incarceration?






for all those saying the above:


If it is a personal choice then amend EMTLA to exclude medical issues related to drug use. Stop transporting those OD's to the hospital.

If it is none of my business then keep your generous hearts (greedy hands) off of my wallet to pay for these fricking idiot's care. Stop providing welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and other entitlement programs to those that CHOOSE a life of addiction and waste.

Make sure that you pay for the care of their dependents also because the decision to shuck their duties as mothers and fathers shouldn't fall on me if we are going to say they have a right to make those decisions.

Find a way to stop all of the theft, and violent crime associated with illicit drug use and I will believe that a convicted felon on parole for assault with a weapon pedaling heroin is a "non violent criminal"

And if you don't want to pay for incarceration for what will likely be life (34 yo + 50 yr sentence) would be 84 yr old heroin user, then simply apply capital punishment.










Honestly, I don't care one bit what other people chose to do on their own time. As long as it does not affect the physical, financial, or health security of myself or my family currently or in the future.



Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:32 pm to
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As a nation, we are fed up with crime, especially from repeat offenders.

Eff this guy.


This is not how you handle social problems. You know what never works? Prohibition. It has never worked in the history of the universe.

It's crazy to me that people are totally cool with throwing someone in the can for a few decades over a drug that harms no one but themselves.

This judge is a douche bag, and you know it.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:33 pm to
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Honestly, I don't care one bit what other people chose to do on their own time. As long as it does not affect the physical, financial, or health security of myself or my family currently or in the future.

Absolutely.


Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 5:33 pm to
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Yay!! Why not legalize and regulate arson and incest as well? If we legalize and "regulate" everything then there won't be any crimes!!! Yay!!!





Are you seriously comparing people choosing to get dinged out of their fricking mind on drugs to incest and arson?
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