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re: Judge backs charges against officer in Tamir Rice killing

Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38400 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:03 pm to
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you're a very typical cop



and you're typical anti cop so kiss my arse!



College educated? In moderate physical shape?
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
8050 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:11 pm to
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Did he point it at the cop? Did the officer have any reason to believe he, or anyone, was in such immediate danger that lethal force was absolutely necessary?


Yes the cop received a call about said juvenile aiming the gun at others. It's why the cop was there, you know, doing his job by answering calls given to him by his dispatch.
Posted by AceHole
Your mothers bedroom
Member since Mar 2012
973 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:13 pm to
Now imagine the 12 year old was white...
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38400 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Did he point it at the cop? Did the officer have any reason to believe he, or anyone, was in such immediate danger that lethal force was absolutely necessary?


Yes the cop received a call about said juvenile aiming the gun at others. It's why the cop was there, you know, doing his job by answering calls given to him by his dispatch.


You failed to answer a single one of his questions, at least with any semblance of truth. The video literally contradicts everything you just said
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
3173 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:34 pm to
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129727 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:41 pm to
Remember the time that one cop broke down on the gun range and washed out of training at another town?

And remember when Cleveland hired him anyway?

And then remember when he shot a kid who had a BB gun?

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Nearly two years before he shot and killed a 12-year-old who had an air gun, Cleveland Police Officer Timothy Loehmann resigned from another police job after a supervisor described him as "distracted and weepy" and "emotionally immature." Records from the Independence Police Department obtained by CNN include comments from a supervisor detailing what they called "a pattern of lack of maturity, indiscretion and not following instructions," a "dangerous loss of composure during live range training" and an "inability to manage personal stress." "I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies," Independence Deputy Chief Jim Polak wrote in a November 2012 memo.


Chief Jim Polak does a mean impersonation of Nostradamus.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:42 pm to
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Now imagine the 12 year old was white...


He might have gotten an extra second to put the GUN down because, well percentages plain and simole. but he would have still been shot because he was pointing a GUN at people. Anyone that points a GUN at someone better be prepared for 2 things
1. Killing someone
2. Being killed
Even at 12 years old. I blame his parents for not teaching him to not point a GUN at people and the possible consequences of doing so.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Negative Nomad
Hell
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:48 pm to
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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129727 posts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 9:56 pm to
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His opinion then has very little bearing on this now.


When someone says a person is immature, lacks discretion, loses composure in live fire situations, doesn't manage personal stress well and then that person demonstrates all those things in a few short seconds which ends in the death of a young person, I'd say that someone's opinion has a lot of bearing on the situation.

I'd guess the lawyers for Cleveland's insurance company will begrudgingly agree (not publicly) when this job evaluation is introduced as evidence that the city of Cleveland did not exercise due diligence in the hiring and training of its police in the civil trial.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40188 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:07 am to
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Remember the time that one cop broke down on the gun range and washed out of training at another town?

And remember when Cleveland hired him anyway?

And then remember when he shot a kid who had a BB gun?


Also, remember when the same cop waited 4 minutes to start CPR on his victim?

Also, someone else mentioned - Ohio is an open carry state. Boy, if a few of the facts were different in this case, that's ALL we would be hearing about from the usual suspects.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40188 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 11:08 am to
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He might have gotten an extra second to put the GUN down because,


He also might have gotten immediate first aid.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Ohio is an open carry state.

What does that have to do with anything? Open carry doesn't mean you get to wave a GUN around and point it at people.
Every single time you point a gun at someone you better be prepared to suffer grave consequences.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 4:24 pm to
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He also might have gotten immediate first aid.



Doubtful. Possible but doubtful.
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