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re: Judge backs charges against officer in Tamir Rice killing

Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:17 pm to
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You are apparently totally ignorant of the details of the event, the kid wasn't holding the gun when they rolled up.


Let me fix that for you.

You are apparently totally ignorant of the details of the event, the kid wasn't holding the gun when they rolled up and immediately shot him.
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Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Genius_Mofo
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:35 pm to
The video I saw was very poor quality, but I think HuffPost or The Guardian even said the kid had the gun in his hands at his waist when police arrived. Kinda hard to tell from what I saw.
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:40 pm to
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Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:42 pm to
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So officers should have to be staring down the barrel of a gun before they can decide a person is a threat?


You're disingenuous naivety aside, how about they confirm that the suspect is holding a weapon in his hand, or even just confirmation that he actually has a weapon (something they did not see for themselves until after the kid was already shot and which was information the person who made the 911 call gave)

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Can a person be pointing a weapon elsewhere and, before another person could begin to react, train that weapon on another human being?


totally irrelevant hypothetical, terrible attempt at misdirection

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I just don't think you can make the argument that no one was in danger.



Da frick? The fact is, regardless of how much you spin the "perceived" threat angle, the only person who was in any danger at the park was the kid, and the only actual, physcial threat came from the cops. I guess you can't really call it a threat though, since there was no discussion or even attempt to assess the situation. More like a follow-through of a threat, minus the threat. So just immediate execution.

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Officers didn't know it was a toy gun, they were acting on a call for service from a concerned citizen and they didn't feel the need to wait until they were in the crosshairs to react if it was indeed a real threat


The concerned citizen told the cops the kid might have had a toy gun- he didn't even sound like he was concerned about safety as much concerned about intimidation. I mention this not because I would expect the cops to have been told that it might be a toy -though they absolutely should have been and whoever relayed the call to cops needs to lose their job- but because there really is no reason to bring the concerned citizen into the discussion, he did everything he was obligated to do as a citizen.







The kid was probably a little shite, but that's not an executable offense under any interpretation of the law.
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Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:45 pm to
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Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:46 pm to
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That's correct, he was in danger of catching a bullet and he caught it well. Probably lost the next nobel peace price winner that day.



Super cool brah, kids being gunned down by police is the best
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:47 pm to
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Nah. The court will prove me right just like all of the other cop shootings, if this one ever sees the inside a court room. I doubt that it will. I revel in your frustration.


The court's unwarranted bias towards a lack of accountability for police wrongdoing isn't a ethical stamp of approval. But you wouldn't know the difference.
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:47 pm to
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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:48 pm to
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Probably lost the next nobel peace price winner that day.


His life was as valuable as your potential offspring. I can only assume someone without kids would be so unempathetic towards the death of a child.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:49 pm to
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and you're typical anti cop so kiss my arse!



You are such trash, it's an embarrassment and unsettling that someone so emotionally unstable is an officer of the law.
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Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:52 pm to
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Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:52 pm to
That you taught your kids to be arrogant asses is all anyone can be reasonably sure of in evaluating your parenting skills.
Posted by novabill
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:53 pm to
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He doesn't have to point it at the officer. If I rolled up with a suspect with a gun in his hand, especially one who was reported to be pointing at people, the dude is dead. Sorry



Cop thought.

I hope the guy is faster n you
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:55 pm to
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I'm not a cop you dumb arse. I love how just because I defend police, it makes me one. Just like you calling for their imprisonment makes you a bleeding heart liberal.



You're a cop, everyone on this board knows it.

Seriously, it's common knowledge.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted by novabill
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:56 pm to
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Probably lost the next nobel peace price winner that day.



Same can be said of cops that are killed?
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 8:58 pm to
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