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re: JPSO used facial recognition technology to arrest a man. The tech was wrong.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:41 am to Fat and Happy
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:41 am to Fat and Happy
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But the city pay out lots of money and the guy will sign a non disclosure for the check and it will all just go away
JPSO will make him work for anything substantial. Since he was arrested in Georgia, I would think he could file suit there and avoid the sympathetic judges in Gretna.
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:46 am to WPBTiger
It’s bad that JPSO took the facial recognition evidence as probable cause, but it’s even worse that the judge signed off on that warrant.
In actuality, what happened is unfortunate for the Georgia guy, but it was bound to happen with this new technology. The same thing happened with multiple other new forensic methods. Hopefully, law enforcement agencies and Judges will learn from this.
Bite mark matching to dental records is almost completely discredited now, but was used to convict numerous people in the past.
In actuality, what happened is unfortunate for the Georgia guy, but it was bound to happen with this new technology. The same thing happened with multiple other new forensic methods. Hopefully, law enforcement agencies and Judges will learn from this.
Bite mark matching to dental records is almost completely discredited now, but was used to convict numerous people in the past.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:00 am to Jimbeaux
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Hopefully, law enforcement agencies and Judges will learn from this.
If you think qualified immunity is bad, just wait until you see absolute immunity for judges
. Judges have zero reasons to do better. 1)It's not their money getting paid out. 2)They are covered by absolute immunity for whatever they sign. 3)This technology will be seen as being tough on crime and get them reelected by the voting rabble. Why change?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:04 am to WPBTiger
The technology is racist. #tala
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:15 am to tigerinthebueche
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You can accomplish a lot if you actually WANT TO!
I’d like to know who owns the consignment stores? The agencies want probably has more to do with the stroke behind the owners.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:50 am to NYNolaguy1
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3)This technology will be seen as being tough on crime and get them reelected by the voting rabble. Why change?
While there’s some truth in what you’re saying, it’s overstated. Judges don’t like the idea of the wrong person getting arrested for a crime, and they don’t like getting overturned by appellate courts. They also don’t like the ridicule of their fellow judges.
Judges can and will learn about the limitations of this technology just like law enforcement agencies.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:53 am to WPBTiger
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A detective took the algorithm at face value to secure a warrant to arrest Randal Reid, 28, in the June theft of luxury purses from a Metairie consignment shop, attorney Tommy Calogero said.
I like how this bit focuses on just the detective when we are supposed to have checks and balances that prevent this shite. Name all involved with getting that warrant.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:53 am to WPBTiger
But is nobody impressed that JPSO is still at least trying to solve a theft? Most of the country’s major cities dont even prosecute those anymore.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:56 am to biglego
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JPSO
Ain’t the NOPD
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:58 am to biglego
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But is nobody impressed that JPSO is still at least trying to solve a theft? Most of the country’s major cities even prosecute those anymore.
No. I’d be impressed if an innocent person didn’t spend a week in jail.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:00 pm to Stamps74
True enough, this never would’ve happened with NOPD
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:05 pm to WPBTiger
Ah well. Tough break.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:37 pm to WPBTiger
The fascial recognition software was basically like having a witness that said "I think that guy is Joe Blow". The sheriff's office appears to have just issued an arrest warrant with absolutely no investigation.
That is completely ridiculous.
That is completely ridiculous.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:15 pm to DamnGood86
The focus needs to be on the consignment store owners. SOs don't go that far unless there is someone behind it pushing them.
ETA: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I just want to know what it takes to get two SOs and other state LE to work for me like that as well.
ETA: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I just want to know what it takes to get two SOs and other state LE to work for me like that as well.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:28 pm to WPBTiger
Fwiw, I’d spend 6 days wrongfully in jail for a multi million dollar settlement.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Start taking it out of the police pension fund and this kind of thing will stop.
Usually when a pension fund is underfunded or lacking, the government steps in, so that's not much of a solution. Also having a bunch of geriatric cops being penniless is not a solution, either.
I don't disagree with the direction you are thinking but the solution should take a more immediate cause/effect.
Mandatory termination of officer, supervisor, senior ranks, etc... you'd have a lot of guys think twice before using the tech incorrectly.
This is not a heat of the moment issue like a gun battle. It's a day-to-day process issue.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:35 pm to tadman
quote:how about overtime not counting towards the pension?? It doesn’t for most other government workers
Usually when a pension fund is underfunded or lacking, the government steps in, so that's not much of a solution. Also having a bunch of geriatric cops being penniless is not a solution, either.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:44 pm to WPBTiger
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Differences, such as a mole on Reid’s face prompted JPSO to rescind the warrant, said Calogero. He estimated a 40-pound difference between Reid and the purse thief he saw in surveillance footage. The culprit’s “flabby arms” were a clear tell, he said.
The article doesn’t say what photo source was used as a match for the store’s photo. Driver’s license photo maybe but the facial recognition company says it uses other sources like photos on social media.
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The warrant, signed by 19th Judicial District Judge Eboni Rose, does not say how Lopinto’s office identified Reid.
And there it is.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:47 pm to TROLA
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And if they hit multiple areas then they are potentially organized and should be stopped as you can’t just let shoplifting rings run rampant
Lol let me tell you about New York City and California, they have decriminalized shoplifting
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:03 pm to Meauxjeaux
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My question is, how does that case get so many resources thrown at it? two different states and multiple agencies?
Then, cases like the girl that got murdered at the train tracks in Baton Rouge, seem to linger and linger
It sounds like the exact opposite. A detective in JP used some sketchy methods to identify who he thought was the guy and got a judge to sign the warrant. A lazy BRPD detective just used that info as fact and wrote a warrant. The police in Georgia just happened to stumble into this dude.
It doesn’t sound like anyone put much effort into this.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 2:04 pm
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