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re: JonBenet documentary theory
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:15 am to NOSTRODAMUS
Posted on 10/22/24 at 2:15 am to NOSTRODAMUS
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It was 100% the brother and the parents covered it up. No question whatsoever.
Not even close. JB had dirt on the Clintons.
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:12 am to ChestRockwell
I think the parents covered for the son. Even knowing he was guilty, they could accept losing both.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:14 am to TutHillTiger
You are cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:49 am to pbro62
Dude is a quack
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:14 am to ChestRockwell
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Worth the watch. I always thought the murderer resided in the house. Unfortunately, that little girl will never have justice
I watched it.
I have no idea what that guy's credentials are. He made some decent points, but some of it was out there. It's a plausible theory.
The killer was either Patsy or Burke IMO.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:56 pm to pbro62
She was right on everything else bro, you guys are just fricking internet cops. All your bullshite has been proven false repeatedly, this post should be moved to political board where it belongs
Posted on 10/23/24 at 8:50 am to TutHillTiger
Can’t think anything else is reasonable besides the son doing something and then the parents covering.
The John theory doesn’t work to me because surely a highly intelligent wealthy business guy would come up with a better plan to cover up his own abuse.
The only way the Patsy theory works for me is if she knew about John’s abuse and used that as her leverage for him to cover all these years.
Don’t see either of those scenarios being able to hold up for so long.
The strangulation part is what doesn’t add up. Hard to fathom the boy doing that but then again he apparently had some seriously deranged behaviors.
Terrible but fascinating story and unfortunately we will never know the truth between those 3.
The John theory doesn’t work to me because surely a highly intelligent wealthy business guy would come up with a better plan to cover up his own abuse.
The only way the Patsy theory works for me is if she knew about John’s abuse and used that as her leverage for him to cover all these years.
Don’t see either of those scenarios being able to hold up for so long.
The strangulation part is what doesn’t add up. Hard to fathom the boy doing that but then again he apparently had some seriously deranged behaviors.
Terrible but fascinating story and unfortunately we will never know the truth between those 3.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:02 am to STLhog
She wasn't just strangled, she was choked with a garrote fashioned from an old paint brush handle. Also there were signs of very recent sexual abuse. The brother theory doesn't really add up either. But nothing about this case ever did.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 9:56 am to ChiTownBammer
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She wasn't just strangled, she was choked with a garrote fashioned from an old paint brush handle. Also there were signs of very recent sexual abuse. The brother theory doesn't really add up either. But nothing about this case ever did.
For sure. After the what would have been fatal blow to the head.
I guess there is some credence to the theory that Burke hit the blow and then the family or John was worried about her getting examined and he then tried covering it up with the choking thing himself. Just can't fathom a 10 year old putting that together. No way.
It's possible he didn't even give Patsy all the details and blamed Burke to her and then said we have to cover for Burke.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:42 am to ChiTownBammer
And then the parents let the 9 year old son who killed the kid be separated the morning after he killed his sister and go to friends house, trusting he would not talk? No way.
I am 50/50 parents or intruder, but as the parent of a 9 year old boy currently, I have give zero percent chance that he could have killed her and kept it to himself. Weird fricker? Absolutely, he’s neurodivergent and grew up in a petty dish of tabloid coverage claiming he was a killer.
I am 50/50 parents or intruder, but as the parent of a 9 year old boy currently, I have give zero percent chance that he could have killed her and kept it to himself. Weird fricker? Absolutely, he’s neurodivergent and grew up in a petty dish of tabloid coverage claiming he was a killer.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:52 am to ChestRockwell
If jon benet were al8ce today I bet she would have an onlyfans.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:53 am to WaterSplashesBack
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I bet she would have an onlyfans
the way her mother was pushing her to be a sloot she might have become a nun
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:06 am to TutHillTiger
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TutHillTiger
I'll indulge this for a second. I think there was a poster on here that had a link-or maybe wrote the article- about a convicted serial killer that would go around the country killing family members of rich guys and then framing the guy for the murders. I remember it because regarding the JBR murder the guy claimed to have been in the Ramsey house dressed as Santa for an "open" Christmas party a few days before the murder. He had free reign to learn every detail of the home, then watched it for a few days before the murder.
At least that was the claim.
This post was edited on 10/23/24 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:08 am to jonboy
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I'll indulge this for a second. I think there a poster on here that had a link-or maybe wrote the article- about a convicted serial killer that would go around the country killing family members of rich guys and then framing the guy for the murders. I remember it because regarding the JBR murder the guy claimed to have been in the Ramsey house dressed as Santa for an "open" Christmas party a few days before the murder. He had free reign to learn every detail of the home, the. watched it for a few days before the murder.
At least that was the claim.
How would he know about the exact bonus John Ramsey received? So many things in this case that are bizarre and lead folks in various directions.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:13 am to Gris Gris
No clue but it was a neighborhood Christmas party thing. Maybe he overhead it in casual conversation or found something while he was going through the house.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:26 pm to jonboy
The dudes net worth was like $10M at the time. Why ask for such a small and arbitrary amount whilst leaving the body in the house?
If I'm not mistaken, there was literally zero evidence of intrusion or material evidence of someone else being in the house. Obviously the police mucked it up badly but to have nothing for something that turned out to be rather sloppy is extremely hard to believe.
It has a family incident and all night/morning cover up written all over it.
They also lied about Burke being asleep that morning when he was heard on the initial 911 phone call.
The Burke thing about keeping quiet is definitely hard to believe but if he was told by his parents it was an accident or he would go to jail if he would talk, not out of the realm of possibility for him to be quiet. Makes the Patsy freak out theory and her knowing about abuse thing slightly more plausible for both the parents to cover for each other. Also very weird reading about how during that same day while they were investigating/searching for the body, John and Patsy were hardly speaking to each other. Detectives said it was like they were a divorced couple the entire day.
thought it was very bizarre reading the reddit piece that 13 days after the murder he drew a picture with her not in it and said "I'm ready to move on with my life". Potentially further indicates some bizarre training or conditioning from the parents in that 13 day span.
Again, just a completely bizarre deal that I don't think we will ever know.
If I'm not mistaken, there was literally zero evidence of intrusion or material evidence of someone else being in the house. Obviously the police mucked it up badly but to have nothing for something that turned out to be rather sloppy is extremely hard to believe.
It has a family incident and all night/morning cover up written all over it.
They also lied about Burke being asleep that morning when he was heard on the initial 911 phone call.
The Burke thing about keeping quiet is definitely hard to believe but if he was told by his parents it was an accident or he would go to jail if he would talk, not out of the realm of possibility for him to be quiet. Makes the Patsy freak out theory and her knowing about abuse thing slightly more plausible for both the parents to cover for each other. Also very weird reading about how during that same day while they were investigating/searching for the body, John and Patsy were hardly speaking to each other. Detectives said it was like they were a divorced couple the entire day.
thought it was very bizarre reading the reddit piece that 13 days after the murder he drew a picture with her not in it and said "I'm ready to move on with my life". Potentially further indicates some bizarre training or conditioning from the parents in that 13 day span.
Again, just a completely bizarre deal that I don't think we will ever know.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:28 pm to STLhog
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The dudes net worth was like $10M at the time
probably used a good bit of that for the
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cover up
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:35 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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I don't know. She was a pageant kid in the 90s, and that was prime pedo hunting ground back then. One could have gotten obsessed. Not saying that is what happened, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Could some crazy obsessed pedo break in to their house and abuse/kill her? Could one break into her house and kidnap her? Sure to both of those. But to break into the house, write a random note, bring her to the basement, and then kill her makes zero sense for the intruder angle. What was the point of the ransom note if you're going to leave her in the house? Why not take the body with you at that point if you want to leave a ransom note?
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:38 pm to ChestRockwell
Burke did it. He is autistic AF. Just a few months earlier had hit her over the head with a golf club (per family friend). Maid said he was known to smear his shite all over JB's things. He was seeing a psychologist but records for minor are sealed and never went to trial . The house had books on how to deal with aggressive kids.
Parents said both kids were sleeping but there was undigested pineapple in JonBenet's stomach at autopsy and a bowl of pineapple on the table in the crime scene photos where Burke purportedly made himself a late night snack (in spite of parents saying both kids were asleep). Near the body in the basement was also wrapped Christmas presents, with one of the gifts having the paper torn back. The autopsy stated blunt force trauma as cause of death and the wound matched a Maglite in the house, one which was wiped clean, including the batteries. The garrote was staged after death.
String these facts together:
Family gets home from a dinner party. Parents are tipsy, packing to leave the next day. Burke makes a snack. JB grabs a chunk for herself. Burke suggests they go downstairs to peak at the gifts, takes the flash light. Burke rips the paper back, JB threatens to tattle tale and BOOM. Parents fearing that they lose custody of Burke (and having had a few glasses of wine) decide to stage a crime scene. Burke's voice can be heard on the 911 call (remember parents said he was asleep the entire time). I even recall a video interview with him after the fact where he talks about how she died and was pretty blunt with his words.
Parents said both kids were sleeping but there was undigested pineapple in JonBenet's stomach at autopsy and a bowl of pineapple on the table in the crime scene photos where Burke purportedly made himself a late night snack (in spite of parents saying both kids were asleep). Near the body in the basement was also wrapped Christmas presents, with one of the gifts having the paper torn back. The autopsy stated blunt force trauma as cause of death and the wound matched a Maglite in the house, one which was wiped clean, including the batteries. The garrote was staged after death.
String these facts together:
Family gets home from a dinner party. Parents are tipsy, packing to leave the next day. Burke makes a snack. JB grabs a chunk for herself. Burke suggests they go downstairs to peak at the gifts, takes the flash light. Burke rips the paper back, JB threatens to tattle tale and BOOM. Parents fearing that they lose custody of Burke (and having had a few glasses of wine) decide to stage a crime scene. Burke's voice can be heard on the 911 call (remember parents said he was asleep the entire time). I even recall a video interview with him after the fact where he talks about how she died and was pretty blunt with his words.
Posted on 10/23/24 at 12:39 pm to Epic Cajun
Maybe he didn't mean to kill her? The only problem with the intruder theory is that there was like 2 feet of snow on the ground and there were no footprints leading to the side of the house where the intrusion would have happened. Also I believe there was a broken window leading into the basement but John told police he had broken it a few weeks prior in order to gain access to the house because he didn't have his keys.
If it was someone outside the house that did it, apparently they had to have gotten in through the front door.
If it was someone outside the house that did it, apparently they had to have gotten in through the front door.
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