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re: Johns Hopkins class of 2026 broken down by race

Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
29319 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:31 pm to
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Bingo. White docs don't listen. Everyone knows this


I specifically said young and the ones I’ve interacted with. I can only go on my experiences. But feel free to tell me how every single doctor in America works.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15222 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:32 pm to
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I’m saying it’s the Asians. Asians are harder working and smarter than “whites”

So with your logic its pretty obvious blacks are way to high since they are obviously the dumbest of the group?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8118 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:35 pm to
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The worst 2 doctors I’ve ever seen were young white dudes. I won’t ever see another young doctor again because of these dudes. I don’t care if you don’t know something but at least try to find out. Run some tests/blood work or something. If you give a doctor your symptoms and he starts to talk about psychiatrists just leave the office and book somebody else.


You probably should have listened…

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:40 pm to
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You have no proof of this


People are getting admitted into medical school with lower scores because of race. What more proof do you need?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10892 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 1:46 pm to
Guy you're fricking crazy. My brother is genius level (I'm pretty dumb) and he tutors high performing students in some of the best high schools in the country (NOVA) and there are kids he tutors with stellar academic resumes, 36 on the ACT and get turned down by everyone but VA Tech.

The DEI bullshite is 100% about perceived quotas and not about the best and brightest.

I talk to him about it often. Seriously..one kid from Thomas Jefferson School for Science & Technology with all As and a 36 and the highest AP scores and a great essay. Turned down by 2 Ivies (whatever), Carnegie Mellon, Northwestern, Stanford, UVA, even 2 B1G schools. Only direct acceptance was VA Tech.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:03 pm to
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Guy you're fricking crazy.


Well his last doctor did tell him to go see a psychiatrist
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
60705 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Whites are underrepresented by 375% compared to their overall population.
Surely the DEI staff will be doing the hard work, and reflecting on the values of diversity and inclusion to inspire them to undertake the outreach to fix this terrible wrong of under representation.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9810 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:14 pm to
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If you give a doctor your symptoms and he starts to talk about psychiatrists

This explains so much
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Don’t think you know what racism is if you are using this as an example

White applicants are being denied at a level severally disproportionate to the racial makeup of the country after factoring in their credentials. So yeah, it’s racism.

On the other hand, your people religiously cite to negative statistics such as incarceration rate of blacks as proof of structural racism. To get there, you have to disregard the obvious fact they commit disproportionate crime.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26102 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:30 pm to
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People are getting admitted into medical school with lower scores because of race. What more proof do you need?

Of course there is absolutely no evidenced of any such thing in this thread or in reality.

This is like a farking white supremacy rally in here today.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80277 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:39 pm to
Ah so the demographic (white) that as a rule performs better academically than every other group except Asian is suddenly passed—by a lot— by the demographic that as a rule scores worst? Is that what you’re going with?

We already know affirmative action is a thing. We already know racial quotas are a thing. Colleges have gone to court to battle for the ability to reject applicants based on race. Now you’re going to argue race wasn’t the deciding factor here?

One must have the mind of a child to believe this shite. What’s sad is that white people like you support this racism. Hey, if you don’t care about the future of your kids then fine, but I have white kids and they don’t deserve to be discriminated against based on their skin color.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:41 pm to
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Of course there is absolutely no evidenced of any such thing in this thread or in reality.

This is like a farking white supremacy rally in here today.



Are you trying to tell me that an Asian applying to medical school with the same resume as an african american will have an equal shot at being admitted to the program?

This isnt some conspiracy theory. Its pretty well known the standards are lowered for certain groups.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58304 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:41 pm to
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BigPerm30


Look ma! No brain!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75024 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:44 pm to
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Are you trying to tell me that an Asian applying to medical school with the same resume as an african american will have an equal shot at being admitted to the program?
There are legitimate lawsuits that were ruled in favor of the plaintiffs (Asian students) that prove exactly that.


quote:

This isnt some conspiracy theory. Its pretty well known the standards are lowered for certain groups.
Tboy epitomizes the “ignore what you see with your own eyes” concept.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:45 pm to
BUT BUT BUT

quote:

This is like a farking white supremacy rally in here today.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26102 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:48 pm to
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Ah so the demographic (white) that as a rule performs better academically than every other group except Asian is suddenly passed—by a lot— by the demographic that as a rule scores worst? Is that what you’re going with?

I’m going with two things here.

First off, the chart in the OP is for “undergraduate admissions.” Everyone yapping about white supremacy in medical school admissions obviously can’t read. That isn’t evidence of white supremacy. It’s evidence of white idiots who wouldn’t qualify for admission to anything.

Second, It is likely true that the pool of highly qualified black candidates is significantly smaller than the pool of highly qualified white candidates. Even assuming equal achievement across all groups (which is impossible) the number of high achieving white students would be higher. But that does not mean that the black students they accept are less high achieving and qualified. When an elite institution gets three times the number of super high achieving applicants than they have desks to fill, then everyone admitted is deserving. Many that are rejected are also deserving.

What this thread is postulating is that white people are superior and “deserve” to be admitted over black students who also meet the stringent admission criteria. This is a false premise. This thread is advocating for white affirmative action.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75024 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:51 pm to
The two arguments that are being made in this thread have been:

1. Asian students are getting those spots, which results in a reduction in the percentage of whites, but no other race.

2. White students who, despite all statistical measurements and past studies, are being out scored so disproportionately that their percentage of accepted applicants is only 16%, despite the racial makeup of the country.



“Ignore what you see with your own eyes.”

It is blatant racism. That is all it is.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:51 pm to
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What this thread is postulating is that white people are superior and “deserve” to be admitted over black students who also meet the stringent admission criteria. This is a false premise. This thread is advocating for white affirmative action.



What the actual date is saying is that black students are superior and "deserve" higher rates of admission solely due to their race.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75024 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:52 pm to
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What this thread is postulating is that white people are superior and “deserve” to be admitted over black students who also meet the stringent admission criteria.
What this thread is postulating, and the data clearly shows, is that a population of students is being disregarded based on their race.

Hell, I will be honest, the actual makeup should be even more Asian students, considering the overall test scores of that cohort.

Stop supporting racially breaking down groups and selecting for non-controllable characteristics.

You are a racist.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117718 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 2:54 pm to
I thought whites were 72%? Either way, 60 only gets 16% and 7 gets 30%
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