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re: Jobless Claims 6.6 million

Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:04 am to
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1k/mo for every American is roughly 3.8 trillion dollars per year. The federal government collects 3.5 trillion or so per year currently. It would cost about as much as the entire federal budget.




No denying it's expensive. I believe the money is worth it in the long term, particularly since it can largely be accounted for through a VAT that specifically targets our large tech companies that make billions off of our data but pay next to nothing in taxes, a carbon tax, and then the rest comes from economic prosperity. People spend more money, more taxes for the government.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:05 am to
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Keep your eyes on the prize. Trump himself isn't the core of our country's problems and I think this is where the majority of Democrats go wrong.

Trump is a symptom. There are decades of economic rot that our political elites have turned a blind eye to until Trump came along. He pointed it out and proposed solutions (solutions that I think are old, outdated, and don't help) that won him the presidency.

We have to fix these core issues.


The core issue is corporatism, but right wing media overlords want to protect their profits so they've convinced a large swath of the country that the problem is really people who don't look like them coming over and taking their jobs.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:05 am to
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1k/mo for every American is roughly 3.8 trillion dollars per year. The federal government collects 3.5 trillion or so per year currently. It would cost about as much as the entire federal budget.


According to Bernies economist we can just print money and it will not affect inflation.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:05 am to
so one thread on the PT.

should i browse over at r/politics and link some of the really deranged shite over there?

how about i grab a couple screenshots of the NY Hospital Execs suggesting that Trump voters be the first to be pulled off ventilators or how they would pay people good money to go cough in our President's face?

muh conspiracies, bruh.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:06 am to
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Joe Biden


Okay, link me Joe Biden celebrating these unemployment numbers
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27969 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:06 am to
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make me


Is that a request? I could help you out.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:06 am to
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but right wing media overlords


Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:07 am to
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so one thread on the PT.


You said give you a link, I gave you a link. One will ELEVEN THOUSAND responses.

How many links do you want before you stop moving the goalposts?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64599 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:07 am to
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The core issue is corporatism


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the problem is really people who don't look like them coming over and taking their jobs.


They're both problems.

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right wing media overlords


Come on, man.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:07 am to
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Is that a request? I could help you out.


If you want to ban me for posting a perspective you don't like, you go right ahead.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:08 am to
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but right wing media overlords want to protect their profits so they've convinced a large swath of the country that the problem is really people who don't look like them coming over and taking their jobs


name a single one of these "right wing media overlords" that are bigger or have a larger presence and funding than CNN, MSNBC, ABC, OR our social media outlets (Google, Facebook, Twitter). Name one.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22960 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:09 am to
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frick Communist China for causing this and frick the World Health Organization for helping them cover up what they did.


This can’t be said enough.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44836 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:09 am to
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Don't you have to be laid off or fired for something that was no fault of your own to claim unemployment?



Here's how it went down at our retail store:

Employee: Hey Aubie, I'm 60 years old and just work here for something to do. I'm in the high risk for this COVID-19 stuff. I'm not coming to work anymore.

Aubie: frick. Guess I'll have to lay you off. I can't really afford to keep you on anyway as we are "non-essential".

Employee 2: Hey Aubie, I'm a healthy college kid and love working here. However, if I'm scared you can't make me work and the feds are paying $600/week to do nothing which is WAY more than I make here working 15 hrs a week.

Aubie: frick.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55457 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 am to
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How about he act like FDR first before we worry about getting all the way to Hitler.


LOL. Mr. Filth here want Trump putting Chinese folks in camps.

This is really too rich.

I'm going to laugh at this one for a long time. Good work.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:10 am to
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They're both problems.


except illegal immigration has been way way way down from it's peak during the Bush administration.

Obama did a lot to deal with it but of course y'all give him no credit for that.

Today it is largely a red herring to keep people angry, afraid, and voting R.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:11 am to
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The core issue is corporatism, but right wing media overlords want to protect their profits so they've convinced a large swath of the country that the problem is really people who don't look like them coming over and taking their jobs.


we allow over 15k H-1B1 visas into this country per year, so that tech companies in Silicon Valley and Austin can pay them cents on the dollars compared to qualified US citizens. You don't think Americans, real Americans, are going to need those jobs in the next 6 months?

your statement is ignorant and gross.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:11 am to
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The core issue is corporatism,


Wholeheartedly agree.

Neolib/neoconservative politics have just about broken our middle class.

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right wing media overlords want to protect their profits so they've convinced a large swath of the country that the problem is really people who don't look like them coming over and taking their jobs


There's really only one large right-wing propaganda machine while there are about 4 left-wing propaganda machines.

They are all corporatist propaganda machines.



I agree that immigrants are getting an unfair share of blame. To make matters worse, automation is here and is about to sweep our most common workers off of the map. We see it already in every CVS, Walgreens, McDonalds, Walmart, etc. and it's only going to expand.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:11 am to
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LOL. Mr. Filth here want Trump putting Chinese folks in camps.


Yep, no one trampled on the constitution like FDR. He was the poster child for authoritarian action.

Goes to show you people love authoritarians as pong as its "their side" in charge.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64599 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:12 am to
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except illegal immigration has been way way way down from it's peak during the Bush administration.



Wonderful. Doesn't mean it's not still a problem. I'm also not referring solely to illegal immigration.

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Obama did a lot to deal with it but of course y'all give him no credit for that.



Meh. I'm also not a member of "y'all".
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:12 am to
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name a single one of these "right wing media overlords" that are bigger or have a larger presence


Sinclair is far-right, they own hundreds of local news outlets all over the country, newspapers and TV stations alike.

The biggest cable news station is right wing

Talk radio is dominated by the right

2 of the 3 largest national newspapers are right wing


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