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re: Iwo Jima Fun Fact

Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:23 am to
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:23 am to
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Would you be considered a casualty of WW2 if you were killed by a burried land mine on Iwo Jima?


This is actually an excellent question.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69283 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:30 am to
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The iconic photo was a re-enactment of the actual, original event.



No, it wasn't. The iconic photo of the flag going up over Iwo Jima was a happy accident that was made possible by the Secretary of the Navy. He came ashore right after we had secured Mount Suribachi and right after the first flag went up. He immediately pointed up at the mountain and ordered that the flag be taken down and given to him. A second flag was brought up the mountain to replace the first flag. The Joe Rosenthal photograph was that second flag going up.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133430 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 11:19 am to
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One of the 6 flag raisers
A sad fact is that 3 of the 6 flag raisers in the photo were killed-in-action on Iwo Jima within 2 weeks of the flag raising.

One of the three survivors, Pfc. Ira Hayes, was a Pima Indian who became famous for his participation in the flag raising. In 1949, he portrayed himself raising the flag in the movie Sands of Iwo Jima, starring John Wayne.

While he survived the war, PTSD affected him for years driving him to become an alcoholic which contributed to his cause of death in 1955 at 32 years of age.

Hayes' battle with alcohol was made famous by a song recorded and sung by Johnny Cash, "The Ballad of Ira Hayes," which contained the lyrics:
quote:

Ira Hayes
Ira Hayes
Call him drunken Ira Hayes
He won't answer anymore
Not the whiskey drinking Indian
Or the marine that went to war



Ira Hayes in 1942

Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6267 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 2:47 pm to
The photographer was killed soon after taking the photo as well
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
6527 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
13983 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

The iconic Iwo Jima Flag-Raising statue in Washington, D.C
The photo, which everyone has seen, has one visible face. That guy is not a Marine. He's a United States Navy Hospital Corpsman!

LINK
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1511 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:23 pm to
Certainly not a casualty of WW 11 !
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22802 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Iwo Jima Fun

The first time these words have been used together.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85129 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 6:30 pm to
I was a wee lad living near Anderson Air force base in Guam when the last Japanese soldier surrendered there in January 1972.

Later there was the Philippines surrender.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33188 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:04 pm to
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The 5 week battle resulted in 48,000 casualties over the island's 8 total square miles.

Well, thats not true
quote:

US Troop Strength
110,000 (all branches)

Japanese Troop Strength
20,933 (13,586 Army, 7,347 Navy)

quote:

Casualties and losses

US Main battle phase:
6,821 dead

Post-battle phase:
15 killed

Japanese Main battle phase:
17,845–18,375 KIA/MIA

Post-battle phase:
867 prisoners
remainder MIA
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
76180 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

The photographer was killed soon after taking the photo as well


You sure about that?
Posted by miketiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1714 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:16 pm to
My mom’s first cousin was killed on Iwo taking out a jap pillbox. He had already taken one out. Got the silver star and Purple Heart. Harrydale Hyde. 19 years old.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45872 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 8:32 pm to
Who was attached to the marines.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6267 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:31 pm to
Marine Sergeant William "Bill" Genaust, who filmed the second flag-raising on Iwo Jima, was killed in action nine days later, on March 4, 1945. He was killed by enemy machine-gun fire while helping Marines secure a cave on the island.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9441 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:35 pm to
Casualties count wounded.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153830 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Iwo Jima
quote:

Fun
quote:

RickAstley
gonna give you up
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
153830 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

The photographer was killed soon after taking the photo as well
Lowery died in 1987

Rosenthal in 2006
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104143 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:31 pm to
Coincidentally I've been reading a history of the 24th Marines in WWII and in the section on Iwo Jima it talks about the woeful state of combat replacements. There was such a shortage of infantry that the Marines were taking men trained in other MOS's and making infantrymen out of them, in some cases after spending considerable time and effort training them in highly technical fields. Others didn't have any training at all, other than six weeks of basic training. They were shipped directly from boot camp to Hawaii, then to Iwo Jima.

All these guys arrived in the days and weeks after the initial landings and were sent into the line to replace combat casualties. Many of them didn't live long enough for anyone in their new units to learn their names.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104143 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:33 pm to
Another fact; Iwo Jima wasn't strictly a Marine show. The Army's 147th Infantry Regiment was in some of the heaviest fighting.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33188 posts
Posted on 11/23/25 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

Casualties count wounded.

Tell that to the OP
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That's a literal carpet of bodies across the surface of the island.
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