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Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:03 am to winkchance
The whole point of the post was not a covid debate but the reality that they made a big deal about this being OTC. That does not mean what people think it means. it is not on the shelf at your Walgreens of CVS in Louisiana. It is behind the counter at the pharmacy and you need an order from your doctor. So big political theater for something that has not changed.
Any doctor in big pharma pocket is not going to write the order.
Any doctor in big pharma pocket is not going to write the order.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:08 am to winkchance
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Any doctor in big pharma pocket is not going to write the order.
Still waiting for big pharma to pay off my student loans.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:08 am to Zephyrius
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Zephyrius
As someone who does this for a living, there's a lot of holes to the study (particularly ones that use propensity score matching).
Also just as a FYI - not all publications are created equal and this is one of them that reflects that.
Getting published in say CHEST has significantly higher meaning because they will poke the smallest holes in your studies and even if you have high quality evidence, if there's faults they will not publish it (As to why it has an impact factor of 10+) while CUREUS and PLOSone are easier to get published and you can have MANY faults and issues in your research (their impact factor are like 1-2 which is not even average).
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:16 am to Bullfrog
quote:How some of you navigate through life truly is astonishing.
Do you get tested before taking pepto bismol?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:23 am to htran90
That study was widely discredited due to severe methodological issues in the study. LINK
Plus, observational data is poor at showing cause and effect. RCTs on this issue have shown no benefit. LINK
quote:
“The main shortcoming here is that the program was optional – and we know well from decades of literature, that those who choose to seek healthcare and take medicines are inherently different from those who do not,” Dr. Mark Siedner, an infectious disease clinician and clinical epidemiologist at Massachusetts General Hospital, told Reuters via email.
“There are also a number of additional shortcomings that have to do with missing data,” Seidner said. Referring to the 71,548 "moderate” users of ivermectin excluded from the analysis entirely, as well as the calculations based on small matched subsets of 283 people, he noted, “for example, almost half the sample appears to have been excluded and nearly 99% was excluded in their analysis that included age and health problems, and there is no good way of accounting for infection rates in people who were never tested.”
Plus, observational data is poor at showing cause and effect. RCTs on this issue have shown no benefit. LINK
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:32 am to htran90
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while CUREUS and PLOSone are easier to get published and you can have MANY faults and issues in your research
I used just one of the many articles doing just a google search. There are many other studies in research/ info which come to the same conclusions of the article and it is one of the latest articles out which support many of the conclusions which were already being made at the height of Covid. The article linked also references the studies to support its conclusions.
Also its rich that many of our "trusted" medical media and authorities on medical treatments were suppressing and out right lying about the benefits of Ivermectin.
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As someone who does this for a living, there's a lot of holes to the study
How about linking to some of these "holes" you are purporting to be in the study.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:39 am to Zephyrius
Maybe ivermectin has some benefits early in the disease. But there has never been a real study to prove that
And the current covid is so mild I have no idea why you would want to be on long term ivermectin to prevent it.
And the current covid is so mild I have no idea why you would want to be on long term ivermectin to prevent it.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:43 am to Cosmo
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Maybe ivermectin has some benefits early in the disease. But there has never been a real study to prove that
Well, the major benefit today is to use as a prophylactic. And there are plenty of studies to prove its efficacy.
And there are 72 references to studies in the CUREUSl link which was published in 2024.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:55 am to Zephyrius
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Well, the major benefit today is to use as a prophylactic. And there are plenty of studies to prove its efficacy.
Why would you need a prophylactic for the current iteration of covid?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:05 am to Cosmo
Accurate post.
Personally, IDC if idiots get Invermectin and drink it. In fact, I would encourage it.
Personally, IDC if idiots get Invermectin and drink it. In fact, I would encourage it.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:12 am to Cosmo
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Why does everybody want this?
This is a silly question. How else do you treat your labrador with red mange?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:35 am to winkchance
Buy it all day on Amazon.
Not sure of your point
Not sure of your point
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:39 am to Cosmo
“Maybe ivermectin has some benefits early in the disease.But there has never been a real study to prove that.”
Dr.Mary Talley Bowden treated 4,000 pts.with ivermectin with only 1 death.It’s documented.
Did she do a placebo controlled “real” study.No,she didn’t.Does that prove that ivermectin doesn’t work? Not in my mind,it doesn’t.
My personal experience-I took ivermectin immediately after I tested positive
for Covid,My symptoms(fever,cough,muscle aches )were gone in less than 24 hrs.Did same for stepson,dtr-in-law,grandson and granddaughter,with same results,symptoms gone within 24 hours.
Dr.Joseph Varon,medical director of an ICU in Houston,famous for working some 700+ days in a row,treated his pts. with ivermectin plus some other things had a 95% survival rate when the average for ICU’s around the country was about 75%.His pts.were typically very ill,some critical when he got them.
I suppose you think he should have done a placebo controlled study.
Dr.Mary Talley Bowden treated 4,000 pts.with ivermectin with only 1 death.It’s documented.
Did she do a placebo controlled “real” study.No,she didn’t.Does that prove that ivermectin doesn’t work? Not in my mind,it doesn’t.
My personal experience-I took ivermectin immediately after I tested positive
for Covid,My symptoms(fever,cough,muscle aches )were gone in less than 24 hrs.Did same for stepson,dtr-in-law,grandson and granddaughter,with same results,symptoms gone within 24 hours.
Dr.Joseph Varon,medical director of an ICU in Houston,famous for working some 700+ days in a row,treated his pts. with ivermectin plus some other things had a 95% survival rate when the average for ICU’s around the country was about 75%.His pts.were typically very ill,some critical when he got them.
I suppose you think he should have done a placebo controlled study.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:43 am to LSUA 75
That’s a lot of writing which means almost nothing.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:54 am to winkchance
Ivermectin has been used to treat a number of medical issues in the developing world for decades. Billions of people treated at this point. It is a miracle drug in terms of efficacy versus cost. Anyone who fails to recognize this is being willfully ignorant.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:02 am to Rantavious
And yet, no one in this thread is saying that it isnt a welk-tested, effective drug. It is likely the best anti-parasitic drug ever.
If you think your "cancers" is caused by parasites, by all means, drink it down.
If you think your "cancers" is caused by parasites, by all means, drink it down.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:10 am to LSUA 75
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Dr.Mary Talley Bowden treated 4,000 pts.with ivermectin with only 1 death.It’s documented.
What are the demographics and risk factors?
The death rate from covid was like 1 in 1000 for all comers in this country so her treatment results are probably not a statistically significant difference from no treatment at all except supportive care
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:13 am to N2cars
That Is exactly what people are inferring in this thread - everyone who discounts the drug as a "horsewormer".
If everyone here thought it was safe and effective this thread would not exist.
Ivermectin' s application goes far beyond the 'prevention' of cancer
If everyone here thought it was safe and effective this thread would not exist.
Ivermectin' s application goes far beyond the 'prevention' of cancer
Posted on 9/3/25 at 11:15 am to Rantavious
Invermectin doesn't prevent cancer.
Invermectin hasn't been clinically proven to aid in the treatment of cancer.
Invermectin hasn't been clinically proven to aid in the treatment of cancer.
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