re: Its just a License Plate Reader

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Right. So can you point me to any reliable evidence or documentation that they are selling info gathered from the cameras?

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Not all LPRs are flock. Some companies definitely sell the data, it’s purchased by insurance companies for investigations.

DRN Data

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Looks like they sell equipment directly to companies so it is not data that is coming from government sources. Kinda creepy, but still you have zero expectation of privacy in a public setting.

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Their business is selling data. The users are govt, insurance, banks, and various investigators. It’s creepy and I didnt say people have an expectation of privacy. I don’t think most people know about such companies and the amount of data about them that is available to LEO and non LEO agencies.

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You have zero expectation of privacy in public.

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The supreme court disagrees with this statement. (Specifically Jones, and then reaffirmed by Chatrie bar warrantless tracking on a dragnet scale).

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someone can give me an actual clear and present danger, I am open to changing my opinion.

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For the moment let's ignore the constitution, and stalking concerns (which seem to prevalent near everywhere they have been installed...), how many innocent people getting held up at police gunpoint over erroneous flock reads, seems dangerous to the average citizen?

There was even one instance last week where a woman was pulled over in one jurisdiction, weapons drawn at her and her family over an erroneous flock entry, and because the municipality forgot to take it down, it happened again in the neighboring jurisdiction. She's essentially been banished from travelling anywhere because of some lazy flock entry.

Not true. But keep repeating the lie until it becomes the truth.

You make too much sense. You'll be mocked

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This is mostly the reason the public is able to participate in conversations about the balance of utilization and privacy. They valued privacy and public discussion of the boundaries.

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I mean I can think of three instances off the top of my head that they flat out lie to their consumers. 1)"you own the data" except their Terms and Conditions explicitly say they have an irrevocable license to use said data, indefinitely on collection. 2)"we have never been hacked" there's a hilarious video online of a flock rep under oath in the Virginia legislature trying to claim this, while then (under questioning) admitting multiple people have gained access illicitly to their video feeds, live, with audible laughs of hilarity in the background. 3)"We just take pictures of license plates" except the image stores a searchable database of every person in the car, searchable by clothing, skin color, symbols, bumper stickers, marks, scratches etc.

In fact you don't need need a car or license plate to search it- for anyone curious, Google "Flock Freeform", it's even on their website.

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Search With Natural Language

Type what you’re looking for, such as “man in blue shirt and cowboy hat” or “dark SUV with rear bumper damage.” Then review relevant visual matches across enabled video feeds, with vehicle results also available from LPR systems.

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Video and LPR, All in One Place

Review person-related video search results from enabled video feeds alongside vehicle results from video and LPR systems in one interface.

Search Beyond Your Own Cameras

When authorized and where sharing is enabled, search shared camera footage from participating agencies, campuses, businesses, or neighboring properties to help identify leads across approved partner networks.

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Flocks website- Flock Freeform