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re: It's getting tough to defend police. Threatning to take kid at traffic stop
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:24 am to KosmoCramer
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:24 am to KosmoCramer
quote:pretty much and i'm usually on the side of police.
This is everything wrong with police all wrapped up into one.
This is indefensible
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:25 am to meauxjeaux2
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Serious question.
Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate? Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
100%, yes.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:26 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
Serious question.
Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate? Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
I'm pretty sure I saw a show about the parking ticket/boot your tire patrol where they had scanners in a van that would scan plates of parked cars as they rode up and down streets. If a plate hit they would pull over, boot the car, and go on.
It appears that the scanning technology is out there... just don't know on what scale it's utilized.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:26 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
Serious question. Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason? I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate? Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
Police patrol shitty areas and look for reasons to stop minorities, because profiling works--and because it works, it is great.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:26 am to Slinky
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river should have cooperated
And she did cooperate. The guy wasnt driving, why should he show Id? What if he didn't have it on him? Sometimes I jump in the car with my wife driving and I bring nothing if it's a short trip to the store or something. Would I be arrested for not showing ID??
hope that cop eats a fat one in court.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:27 am to cleetus
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if you get pulled over, there is a reason. Maybe you or the vehicle you are in match the description of someone they are looking for. They aren't going to volunteer that info right out and have you run.
Well, we'd certainly like to believe that. But...what if there is no reason? Do we just cede the right to the police to stop us whenever and wherever they want for no reason whatsoever? Frankly, based on the one police officer's repeated "changing of stories" as to why car was initially stopped...from "looks like a guy with a warrant"...to "the dog hit on the car" ....to "no headlights" (although the stop appears to have occurred in the day)....I lean toward believing that this is, in fact, one situation where the police likely had NO reason to pull these people over. Should the passenger have been resistant? Probably not....but if we as a society just allow the police to pull us over and check us whenever and wherever they want...what's the purpose of the Fourth Amendment prohibition against unlawful search and seizures???
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:27 am to meauxjeaux2
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In the United States, ANPR systems are more commonly referred to as ALPR (Automatic License Plate Reader/Recognition) technology, due to differences in language (i.e., "number plates" are referred to as "license plates" in American English)
Mobile ANPR use is widespread among US law enforcement agencies at the city, county, state and federal level. According to a 2012 report by the Police Executive Research Forum, approximately 71% of all US police departments use some form of ANPR.[31] Mobile ANPR is becoming a significant component of municipal predictive policing strategies and intelligence gathering,[32] as well as for recovery of stolen vehicles, identification of wanted felons, and revenue collection from individuals who are delinquent on city or state taxes or fines, or monitoring for "Amber Alerts". Successfully recognized plates may be matched against databases including "wanted person", "protection order", missing person, gang member, known and suspected terrorist, supervised release, immigration violator, and National Sex Offender lists.[33] In addition to the real-time processing of license plate numbers, ALPR systems in the US collect (and can indefinitely store) data from each license plate capture. Images, dates, times and GPS coordinates can be stockpiled and can help place a suspect at a scene, aid in witness identification, pattern recognition or the tracking of individuals.
An early, private sector mobile ANPR application has been applications for vehicle repossession and recovery[34]), although the application of ANPR by private companies to collect information from privately owned vehicles or collected from private property (for example, driveways) has become an issue of sensitivity and public debate.[35] Other ALPR uses include parking enforcement, and revenue collection from individuals who are delinquent on city or state taxes or fines. The technology is often featured in the reality TV show Parking Wars featured on A&E Network. In the show, tow truck drivers and booting teams use the ALPR to find delinquent vehicles with high amounts of unpaid parking fines.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:27 am to meauxjeaux2
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Yes. And depending on the neighborhood, time of day, and driver they will pull you over and figure out a reason later. Most honest cops will admit this to you. They don't really try to hide it. In fact they're proud of it and for the most part protected because of ignorance in the courts and public.
Not every time. But I guarantee you it certainly has happened to you once or twice.
Many cities have these, yes. Those speed cameras on top of traffic lights. They capture and log every plate that passes.
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Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
Yes. And depending on the neighborhood, time of day, and driver they will pull you over and figure out a reason later. Most honest cops will admit this to you. They don't really try to hide it. In fact they're proud of it and for the most part protected because of ignorance in the courts and public.
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i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate?
Not every time. But I guarantee you it certainly has happened to you once or twice.
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Is there a special camera they use that checks /scans every license plate going down the road?
Many cities have these, yes. Those speed cameras on top of traffic lights. They capture and log every plate that passes.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:28 am to The Third Leg
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Police patrol shitty areas and look for reasons to stop minorities, because profiling works--and because it works, it is great
It would work in affluent areas as well. People all over are breaking the law regardless of socioeconomic status.
Minorities are less likely to know their rights and consent to unlawful orders which gets them into trouble and they don't have the fiscal ability to fight the overreach so police go after them.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:28 am to terd ferguson
Here's a little question for the probable cause to stop the car: just because the car is registered to someone with an expired license, does that mean the driver of he car has an expired license?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:29 am to The Third Leg
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Here's a little question for the probable cause to stop the car: just because the car is registered to someone with an expired license, does that mean the driver of he car has an expired license?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:29 am to KosmoCramer
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Minorities are less likely to know their rights and consent to unlawful orders which gets them into trouble and they don't have the fiscal ability to fight the overreach so police go after them.
That's the beauty of it, we get to throw the welfare junkies in prison, so that we can pay more for their welfare.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:30 am to The Third Leg
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Here's a little question for the probable cause to stop the car: just because the car is registered to someone with an expired license, does that mean the driver of he car has an expired license?
No....but it probably creates sufficient probable cause to pull the car over and check...
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:30 am to The Third Leg
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just because the car is registered to someone with an expired license
With all the other excuses he came up with (no lights, dog hit on the car) I'd be willing to be the line about the expired license was bullshite too.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:30 am to The Third Leg
We were discussing that earlier.
They may not even have had probable cause to stop them, let alone detain them. And certainly not to arrest them.
If the primary holder of the car is expired, I think it would be legal to stop them but not detain once it's shown that the driver isn't expired.
They may not even have had probable cause to stop them, let alone detain them. And certainly not to arrest them.
If the primary holder of the car is expired, I think it would be legal to stop them but not detain once it's shown that the driver isn't expired.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:30 am to rumproast
Obviously not bc her license came back valid.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:31 am to meauxjeaux2
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I mean,if i see a cop behind me in traffic,stopped at a redlight. Is he checking my plate?
I'm pretty sure you don't have any privacy when it comes to your license plate. The police are allowed to check it.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:31 am to rumproast
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Here's a little question for the probable cause to stop the car: just because the car is registered to someone with an expired license, does that mean the driver of he car has an expired license?
Nope.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:32 am to meauxjeaux2
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Do police just ride around checking peoples license plates for no reason?
yes, at least in New Orleans they do. But they generally only target certain areas of the city. The cop behind you may be doing just that if he thinks you're suspicious.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:32 am to cleetus
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amazing how that works isn't it? and yes, it was the couple in the car that instigated that whole thing. just show your damn license, answer a question and be on your way. shite it's not rocket science. just be polite and cordial and your out a couple minutes at most.
My friends and I went to Auburn this weekend. On the way we were pulled over by a Mobile County Sheriff for not using a turn signal to merge on the interstate. We pulled over, turned the car off, rolled the windows down. The driver of the vehicle was extremely cordial w/ the officer.
He proceeded to search our entire car, rummaged through our bags, and held us for over a half an hour. He found nothing. What should we have done to avoid this?
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