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re: It's Equal Pay Day Today
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:33 am to fr33manator
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:33 am to fr33manator
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What am I gonna do with 20 cents?
If you're married, she'll get that 20 cents anyways so where's the men's equal pay day, amirite?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:34 am to TH03
My wife and I work together. We have the exact same position and same base salary. She will make less than me this year because we are having a baby and she is choosing to take extra time off in addition to her paid vacation time.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:34 am to Deactived
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I can't name one job where a woman and i can apply equally where I will get paid more because I'm a male
that may have been true at one time but it is just urban folklore now, if not, all we would here about are massive payouts resulting from discrimination lawsuits
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:35 am to WG_Dawg
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I can't name one job where a woman and i can apply equally where I will get paid more because I'm a male
because it doesn't happen, that doesn't exist. Men simply hold a larger share of the big time, high level jobs compared to women.
Again, this is not where the 80% comes from.
You're right, men on average have better jobs, but this 80% thing comes from same title/job.
Its a fact, but its not really due to sexism. Its mainly due to women being scared to negotiate salaries.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:35 am to TheCaterpillar
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No, the 80% pay is for equal titles/jobs. Its not the average overall salary
It actually is an average of all jobs. The gender pay gap is a myth.
Men tend to work in jobs that are more dangerous and more physically strenuous.
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The gender pay gap in the United States is the ratio of female-to-male median or average (depending on the source) yearly earnings among full-time, year-round workers. The average woman's unadjusted annual salary has been cited as 78% to 82% of that of the average man's.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 10:38 am
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:36 am to TH03
I wish my wife made $.80 on my $1.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:36 am to Deactived
It happens at my company because people go between our company and our biggest supplier so fluidly. I could go from rep to manager to an outside position back to a higher management position and make more than someone who didn't do that outside position.
It has nothing to do with male or female though. It's just the fact that every new position comes with a raise.
It has nothing to do with male or female though. It's just the fact that every new position comes with a raise.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:37 am to TheCaterpillar
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They're not. They're 80% of the male salary on average.
Then why are there even males working those jobs if the companies can get the same thing for 20% less cost?
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:37 am to 777Tiger
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that may have been true at one time but it is just urban folklore now, if not, all we would here about are massive payouts resulting from discrimination lawsuits
Salaries are rarely public information at most companies.
I have no idea how much the women at my office make that have my same job. I know some guys that make less and some that make more, just because of where they started, etc.
We have a huge range for each position and I know every year I negotiate hard for more money.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:37 am to slackster
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I wish my wife made $.80 on my $1.
word
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:38 am to ProjectP2294
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Then why are there even males working those jobs if the companies can get the same thing for 20% less cost?
I don't know that answer, but maybe because there are a lot more in the applicant pool for professional type jobs.
And maybe we're just smarter.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:40 am to slackster
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I wish my wife made $.80 on my $1.
Me too. My wife makes a lot less than me. She also works far fewer hours in a less stressful job.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:40 am to fallguy_1978
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It actually is an average of all jobs. The gender pay gap is a myth.
Men tend to work in jobs that are more dangerous and more physically strenuous.
Oh I'm wrong.
Well, I had to attend some bullshite seminar at my office about pay gap and the women claimed it was for same titles and cited stats.
I'll eat my crow.
ETA:
HOLD THE PHONE, WE'RE BOTH RIGHT:
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The gender pay gap or gender wage gap is the average difference between the remuneration for men and women who are working. Women are generally paid less than men. There are two distinct numbers regarding the pay gap: unadjusted versus adjusted pay gap. The latter takes into account differences in hours worked, occupations chosen, education and job experience. For example, someone who takes time off (e.g. maternity leave) will likely not earn as much as someone who does not take time off from work. In the United States, for example the unadjusted average female's annual salary has commonly been cited as being 78% of the average male salary, compared to 80–98% for the adjusted average salary.[1][2]
So 80% is in the range for adjusted as well.
Basically depends on who gives you the stat.
This post was edited on 4/2/19 at 10:43 am
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:40 am to TH03
Word.
I guess I meant all things equal. Your company looks to be paying based off experience within itself
Suzie and I graduate lsu and apply to exxon immediately for the same job. They aren't paying her less if she gets the job
I guess I meant all things equal. Your company looks to be paying based off experience within itself
Suzie and I graduate lsu and apply to exxon immediately for the same job. They aren't paying her less if she gets the job
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:41 am to TheCaterpillar
Women are not as productive in the work place usually.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:42 am to TheCaterpillar
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No, the 80% pay is for equal titles/jobs.
You are absolutely wrong here. On a how things work podcast a few years back, they broke down all the numbers. 80% is the average of all male salaries vs all female salaries. It was 4 or 5% when accounting for experience and position. Additionally, I believe it was nursing in which men were paid less.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:43 am to TH03
Ok I want to make as much as women in Hollywood.
Only fair
Only fair
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:43 am to Deactived
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Suzie and I graduate lsu and apply to exxon immediately for the same job. They aren't paying her less if she gets the job
For sure. I wasn't disagreeing, just showing a pay gap that exists isn't because one is a man and one is a woman.
If she makes less for that job she got over you, it's because she didn't negotiate a better salary, not because she's female.
Males would never be hired if it worked that way.
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:44 am to Spasweezy
So I like Fortune Magazine usually and they say the adjusted pay gap is 94 cents on the dollar.
So that is definitely just women being too scared to negotiate IMO.
LINK
So that is definitely just women being too scared to negotiate IMO.
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our latest research reveals that the “adjusted” gender pay gap in the U.S. amounts to women earning about 94.6 cents per dollar compared to men.
LINK
Posted on 4/2/19 at 10:44 am to Spasweezy
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Women are not as productive in the work place usually.
in 35 years with my company I have never taken any time off other than vacation or a few sick days, most of the women I know that have the same job have taken paid years off for various reasons
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