re: Its days like this where I feel do we need this much military?

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Cry me a fckn river. Obama did nothing but drown the country in debt but yet you blame Trump lol

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I bitched for Obama's entire term in office. Trump is adding to the debt so I will bitch about trump now as long as he is doing it. Just because Obama did it doesn't make it right that Trump does it.

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bitched for Obama's entire term in office. Trump is adding to the debt so I will bitch about trump now as long as he is doing it. Just because Obama did it doesn't make it right that Trump does it.

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Trump and the GOP congress are 10x worse than Obama.

Obama actually reduced discretionary spending outside of the stimulus (a bill written under Bush and passed under Obama and due 100% to the Bush economy). Trump is jacking discretionary spending through the roof (yes military is discretionary).

Budget deficits were declining under Obama. If his policies had simply been continued as they were (spending and tax policies), we would be very close to no deficit at all and the debt essentially holding steady.

Enter Trump, deficits are skyrocketing again, projected to top 1 trillion shortly and 2 trillion within the next ten years under trump and GOP policies. The projections were nowhere NEAR that when Obama left office.

Trump and the GOP are simply MUCH MUCH worse for both the debt and deficit. They jack spending even higher than the Dems with their massive increases to the military AND to really frick things up, they cut taxes too.

The Dems will have a big mess to start the cleanup on next year.

Out of all that garbage, you just posted not one sentence said anything about Democrats reducing government spending on Social Security / Unemployment & Medicare. The two biggest slices of our budget.

There is also only like 4 countries that spend more on education than the US. Living in LA, seems like that's a big chunk of wasted money.

Care to dispute anything I posted?

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Out of all that garbage, you just posted not one sentence said anything about Democrats reducing government spending on Social Security / Unemployment & Medicare. The two biggest slices of our budget.

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Neither party will touch either, so what do you want me to say.

This isn't rocket science.

GOP jacks spending massively then adds insult to injury as far as our debt goes by cutting corporate taxes when corps are already sitting on record amounts of cash.

Really hard to argue the Dems are not vastly more fiscally responsible.

As I said look at the deficit and its trajectory when Obama left office and year 1 of trump (before he was able to start fricking shite up).

Then look at it now and current projections. Much much worse.

This shite ain't complex. Jack spending, cut taxes = jack up the debt and deficit.

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Obama actually reduced discretionary spending outside of the stimulus

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Citation please.

Also noticed you didn't mention anything about non-discretionary spending. So did Obama expand or reduce this overwhelmingly larger part of the budget?

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Budget deficits were declining under Obama.

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Citation please.

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Trump and the GOP are simply MUCH MUCH worse for both the debt and deficit.

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Yet another wild claim with no numbers to back it up.

Look I cant convince stupid and lazy people of anything and I'm not going to waste a lot of time trying.

Go educate yourself like I did.

Here are a couple of simple articles to start with then you are on your own.
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Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?

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It's unlikely that President Obama will ever shake his reputation among Republicans as a big spender. But a key fact counters that rap.

As a share of the economy, spending on domestic and defense programs has been on the decline since 2010, and is on track to reach the lowest level in more than 50 years by 2023.

At its height in 2010, "discretionary spending" under Obama reached 9.1% of GDP. That was largely due to the stimulus law intended to dig the country out of a deep recession. But even at that high level, it wasn't that much higher than the 40-year average of 8.4% and was still below the 40-year peak of 10% reached in 1983.

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Fact is mandatory spending is manadatory.

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You didn't answer the question of whether mandatory spending increased under Obama.

ETA: And it's rather funny your second article only addresses discretionary spending.

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You didn't answer the question of whether mandatory spending increased under Obama.

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mandatory spending has little to nothing to do with the President, regardless of who it is...

Mandatory Spending
Mandatory spending is spending that Congress legislates outside of the annual appropriations process, usually less than once a year. It is dominated by the well-known earned-benefit programs Social Security and Medicare. It also includes widely used safety net programs like the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly food stamps), and a significant amount of federal spending on transportation, among other things.

Many mandatory programs' spending levels are determined by eligibility rules. For example, Congress decides to create a program like Social Security. It then sets criteria for determining who is eligible to receive benefits from the program, and benefit levels for people who are eligible. The amount of money spent on Social Security each year is then determined by how many people are eligible and apply for benefits.

Congress therefore does not decide each year to increase or decrease the budget for Social Security or other earned benefit programs. Instead, it periodically reviews the eligibility rules and may change them in order to exclude or include more people, or offer more or less generous benefits to those who are eligible, and therefore change the amount spent on the program.

Mandatory spending makes up nearly two-thirds of the total federal budget. Social Security alone comprises more than a third of mandatory spending and around 23 percent of the total federal budget. Medicare makes up an additional 23 percent of mandatory spending and 15 percent of the total federal budget.