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re: 'It's a Lifelong Burden': The Mixed Blessing of the Medal of Honor

Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by kook
Berrytown
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:48 pm to
someone paste the whole article. Have to subscribe to read it
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19882 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Not to be a jerk, but one doesn’t win the Metal of Honor, one receives it.


Medal
Posted by kook
Berrytown
Member since Sep 2013
2153 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
My Grandfather received a Purple Heart in the Battle of the Bulge. His friends were making a huge deal about it. Gramps said "I don't want no damn medal, it'll heal." Until he realized it meant he got to go home.
Posted by kook
Berrytown
Member since Sep 2013
2153 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:58 pm to
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I know a guy in his early sixties whose father fought in WWI. His dad was 72 when he was born

I'm 50 and both Grandfathers fought in WWII.
Wife is 48 and her Dad fought.
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15571 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 1:59 pm to
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You’re roughly 40 and your dad fought in the Korean War?


I’m the same age and my grandfather fought in Korea


Well, and I know this is going to blow your Mensa mind, my dad was 48 when I was born.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted by GreyWhiskers
St. Tammany
Member since Nov 2018
913 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:06 pm to
My older brother was part of the 1st Cal in Vietnam and toward the end of his tour, got shot through the shoulder by a sniper. That’s all he told us about his time in the war. He gave all his keepsakes that he’d collected over there to our mom including his purple heart, because he wanted to forget about it.

My mom passed away almost a year ago and we were cleaning out her house to get it ready to sell and my older sister found the box that my mom put all his keepsakes in, it was in the spare bedroom closet. She called out to my brother to come over, she handed him a picture out of the box, asked him if he recognized it, the look on his face was something I never want to see again. He sat down at the kitchen table with the picture of his two buddies that never made it home, he completely shut down and cried for about an hour.
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:24 pm to
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You should read the citations.

Here is one from Vietnam:

Roy Benavidez


I became acquainted with Roy going down the MOH rabbithole one night.

That is a bad, bad, bad man...

if you're not on his team.

A gotdamn PATRIOT, is what Roy Benavidez is.

A man who pissed excellence bigly, albeit humbly, is what Roy Benavidez was.

Surely it was an awe-inspiring experience to be in the man's presence?

I regret that men like him cannot be immortal in the flesh like that of their legacy.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20648 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:35 pm to
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That is a bad, bad, bad man...


Couldn't have said it better.

Taken from his Wiki bio:

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The six-hour battle left Benavidez with seven major gunshot wounds, 28 fragmentation holes, and both his arms were slashed by a bayonet. He had fragments in his head, scalp, shoulder, buttocks, feet, and legs, his right lung was destroyed, and he had injuries to his mouth and back of his head from being clubbed with a rifle butt. A bullet shot from an AK-47 entered his back and exited just beneath his heart.[4]
This post was edited on 5/24/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:44 pm to
My uncle served in Korea and Vietnam. I don't know if he got medals. I presume he did. He didn't want to talk about his experiences there.

He did get a good bit of ink and to this day he won't tell the story behind any of his tattoos but I know there's a story attached to each one.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135363 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 2:50 pm to
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My grandfather received two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star in Korea. To this day, no one know where they are. To him, they were just reminders of some truly bad days.
My dad was awarded the bronze star in World War II but I never knew it until I cleared out his bedroom clothes closet after he passed away.

I found a small cardboard box on the top shelf above the clothes rack and when I opened it, there was the bronze star along with the citation for the award.

He never once mentioned it to me. I regret he didn't want to talk about it with me but I respect his reason for not doing so.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22325 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:10 pm to
An uncle was awarded the Medal of Honor during WWII, the citation stating (paraphrasing) that he saved the lives of 12 men under his command. He only talked about to his son, my cousin, the one time. He said that 21 men under his command were killed that day, and that is what he remembered the most about his Medal of Honor. He was always a mild mannered gentleman post war, but any reference, mention, of anything to do with Japan and he always lost it, his hate almost a physical thing.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 3:36 pm to
Roy was holding his guts with one hand as he threw the last wounded into the helicopter. He had also managed to throw two wounded north vietnamese into the helicopter by accident.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7876 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:20 pm to
Some really good stories being shared here. Let me add some humor to this very serious thread, especially since we are approaching Memorial Day. My stepfather was a WWll veteran and a Purple Heart recipient. I found a box with his ribbons and medals in it one time and there was also a Good Conduct medal in it. I asked him about it and his response: “ They just gave that to you if you didn’t get the clap” !!!

Happy Memorial, all, and God Bless America
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27507 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Not to be a jerk, but one doesn’t win the Metal of Honor, one receives


Honest to God I thought I had written earned instead of won.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6716 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:41 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
4193 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:47 pm to
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this is going to blow your Mensa mind


frick off, cocksucker. I even gave a suggestion on his possible age and that I thought that it was interesting in a subsequent post. Yet, you feel the need to be a bitch about it
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38562 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 7:54 pm to
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I found a box with his ribbons and medals in it one time and there was also a Good Conduct medal in it. I asked him about it and his response: They just gave that to you if you didn’t get the clap” !!!
You really have to frick up to not get a GCM.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32975 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:09 pm to
Why do you regret not knowing him? Did you do something wrong?
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15571 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:29 pm to
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frick off, cocksucker. I even gave a suggestion on his possible age and that I thought that it was interesting in a subsequent post. Yet, you feel the need to be a bitch about it


Internetting is serious business man.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
4095 posts
Posted on 5/24/19 at 8:39 pm to
Not to be insensitive at all to any warriors that suffer from these painful memories, but I have a 80s/90s generation green beret cousin who just doesn’t process this stuff the same way these guys do. He respects and honors his dead brethren, but also has no problem going into detail how he shape charge-exploded guys on the other side of doors and refuses to call Somalians anything other than skinnies. He’s straight up scary with how matter of fact his job was and has no regrets or hangups with what he’s done, and he’s done some bad bad shite. The Vietnam guys definitely forged the way for some future badasses, but they didn’t have the same psych support that modern day special forces guys have to keep moving on with their missions.
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