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re: ITEP critics defeat ExxonMobil tax break requests Thursday at School Board
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:52 am to rowbear1922
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:52 am to rowbear1922
Even more staggering that EBR and Zachary spend almost 4K more per student than Cy-Fair and Katy ISD's in TX.
WOW!
WOW!
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:54 am to Mudminnow
quote:Absolutely insane.
Even more staggering that EBR and Zachary spend almost 4K more per student than Cy-Fair and Katy ISD's in TX.
And they have the gall to demand even more money.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Its about money, not education. The current policy just wants butts in the seat
When funding is tied to attendance, there's no way to effectively discipline kids or remove the bad apples.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 10:58 am to Prominentwon
Talking out of your arse about something you don’t know anything about. Did you not see the note about the $7 BILLION project Exxon was willing to bring to the Baton Rouge area going to Corpus? Do you have any idea about how many other projects Exxon has and is taking to Texas? The company announced $50 BILLION of projects for the Gulf Coast, Louisiana is positioning themselves to get none of that. And if you don’t think large sites will shut down and go elsewhere you haven’t ever driven up Highway 61 to see all the acres of rust that were once bustling petrochemical manufacturing sites (and we can add a huge GP mill going away).
You are obtuse enough you’d have been posting from Detroit saying there’s no way the auto industry would go anywhere. How’d that go?
You are obtuse enough you’d have been posting from Detroit saying there’s no way the auto industry would go anywhere. How’d that go?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:03 am to Prominentwon
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Because I’m sitting here e-laughing in your face if you think XOM is leaving.
Will it happen tomorrow? No.
But they'll continue to expand elsewhere, modernize and upgrade facilities at plants across the country, and over time scale back operations in Baton Rouge while the modern/more efficient plants are used to maximum capacity.
The Methanex plant in Ascension was dismantled in Chile and shipped to the US because of the economic and politician uncertainty in South America. So if they are willing to do it, why wouldn't XOM?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:05 am to LSUFanHouston
It’s a short term exemption. Then all that equipment goes on the tax rolls for many decades to follow. So it’s a tax deferment.
Add you to the list of posters arguing without understanding the facts. You might have a future in politics.
Add you to the list of posters arguing without understanding the facts. You might have a future in politics.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:08 am to Prominentwon
quote:
I may be bias, but I think teachers should be one of the highest professions in the entire country
Teachers have to deal with a lot of shite on a daily basis much of which is out of their control and I feel for them in that regard.
BUT
2 months off every year.
The starting pay for EBR is around 40K with a BA, BS, which equivalent to a 48K 12 month employee. That's 10K higher than my first job with an MS.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:08 am to Golfer
As were many fertilizer plants and methanol plants in South Louisiana when natural gas prices shot up in the 90’s and early 2000’s. From 11 huge ammonia plants to 3. Several of the closed plants were disassembled and sent to China, South America and such.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:11 am to pointdog33
Scruffy doesn’t disagree that teachers should be a highly paid profession, but at the same time, two major changes would have to happen.
1. The academic requirements will need to be increased.
2. They need to have the ability to discipline the children.
1. The academic requirements will need to be increased.
2. They need to have the ability to discipline the children.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:12 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Then all that equipment goes on the tax rolls for many decades to follow. So it’s a tax deferment.
Except in 10 years when that equipment gets swapped out for the "newer, better" stuff which also qualifies for a new 10 year exemption.
quote:
Add you to the list of posters arguing without understanding the facts. You might have a future in politics.
I'd be terrible at politics. Why? Because I actually tell the truth, and am smart enough to know what the truth is.
Also, deferment means delay payment. Exemption means no payment.
The 10 years of taxes are not deferred. They are exempted.
The tax in the 11th year and beyond, provided the equipment is still actually in use, will be the same rather or not there is an exemption in years 1-10.
Someone here doesn't understand the facs.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:14 am to Mudminnow
quote:
EBR spends $10,755.00 per student
Zachary $9,780.00 per student
Katy ISD $8,596.00 per student.
Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.
Starting teacher salary in Cy-Fair ISD is $53K with BS. EBR $44,500.00 with a BA degree,$48,400.00 with a PHD
So where is all the extra money going?
are we funding more pieces of shite admins who do nothing?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:17 am to CptBengal
quote:Yes.
are we funding more pieces of shite admins who do nothing?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:18 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Talking out of your arse about something you don’t know anything about. Did you not see the note about the $7 BILLION project Exxon was willing to bring to the Baton Rouge area going to Corpus?
Prom is pro TBR.
All he cares is it looks like they "won"
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:19 am to CptBengal
quote:
are we funding more pieces of shite admins who do nothing?
The schools in Katy and Cy-Fair are generally bigger than the schools in LA. There are some per-student cost savings there.
Because the districts are larger, they are able to negotiate better prices on materials, etc. There are some per-student cost savings there.
In Katy ISD at least, the health insurance benefits are absolute crap, compared to Office of Group Benefits here in LA. There is some savings there.
There is a ton of waste and bloat in school systems in LA (mid-level admins, etc) that they don't have. There is some savings there.
Edit: my wife, no pics, who has taught in Katy and taught in LA, says the class sizes are bigger in Katy. So, more kids per teacher - less teachers needed - more money to pay each teacher. However, they can get away with that, because many of the schools in Katy have kids that are less discipline problems, and have more involved parents, than LA schools.
If all the kids are getting parental help and doing their homework and not acting like an idiot in class, a teacher can have more of them in the classroom and not affect learning.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:23 am to LSUFanHouston
Swapped out in 10 years?? You think major rebuild/replacements happen in plants every 10 years?
Further proof you really don’t know what you’re taking about.
Further proof you really don’t know what you’re taking about.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:25 am to LSUFanHouston
Exxon is welcome in SW LA. Calcasieu & Cameron parishes 
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:29 am to Icansee4miles
Don't know enough about ITEP to understand it.
Baton Rouge has too many other issues that are not business favorable either, traffic infrastructure being the most important.
Baton Rouge had no visionaries to make the city better going back to 80's and Screen and McHugh were incompetent mayors.
You can't make up for decades of failure at the highest level of city government and expect to compete with other similar cities that passed you by a long time ago.
Baton Rouge has too many other issues that are not business favorable either, traffic infrastructure being the most important.
Baton Rouge had no visionaries to make the city better going back to 80's and Screen and McHugh were incompetent mayors.
You can't make up for decades of failure at the highest level of city government and expect to compete with other similar cities that passed you by a long time ago.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:30 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
Swapped out in 10 years?? You think major rebuild/replacements happen in plants every 10 years?
I know they do. Plants are constantly making improvements to gain more efficency. And they are building the tax status of those improvements into those decisions.
quote:
Further proof you really don’t know what you’re taking about.
I know exactly what I am talking about. The fact that you don't like the truth doesn't mean it's not the truth.
And for the record, I think EBR schools made a terrible decision.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:32 am to Lsuhack1
quote:
What we do with the leftovers?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:38 am to CptBengal
One beneficiary is Aramark.
Then there's CSRS
Then there's CSRS
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