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Posted by Radio One
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:00 pm to
IDF and Shin Bet have confirmed, per the Times of Israel.
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:20 pm to
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“An Israeli official tells Hebrew media Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed in a firefight at a building located in the southern Gaza city of Rafah.”


Flags on college campuses everywhere were lowered to half staff
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:22 pm to
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Flags on college campuses everywhere were lowered to half staff


Government buildings in Iran are flying the "purple flag of anger". I kind of want to get a little one for my desk at work I can raise like at Ponchos whenever something pisses me off.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:51 pm to
This is the same piece of shite who said on the record that his party, and ruling group (originally legitimately elected by the Palestinian people in Gaza) has no responsibility to the said people. He said on the record that the Palestinian people were the responsibility or the UN, not Hamas. He washed his hands of the Palestinian people, and positioned Hamas to take full advantage of humanitarian relief efforts while the people suffered. That effectively turned the entire Palestinian population in Gaza into "refugees", and directly lead to most every major media outlet in the world calling large, full-fledged cities like Jabalia and others "refugee camps". Because the UN refuses to label Hamas a terrorist organization, and this dead piece of shite a terrorist, it has allowed Hamas to operate overtly within these "refugee camps".

There are high ranking UN officials who no doubt shed tears this morning when this news broke. frick em all.
Posted by Radio One
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 3:54 pm to
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LegendInMyMind


Re: your above post.

“IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari will release footage tonight of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar shortly before the October 7 attacks, The Times of Israel has learned.

The footage shows Sinwar going in and out of a tunnel, bringing family members and supplies underground. One clip shows Sinwar bringing down a plasma TV.” (My emphasis.)

- Times of Israel live blog, 4:18 P.M. Eastern

There’s also eerie drone footage posted of him throwing a stick just before he’s blown the frick up.
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Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:32 pm to
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There’s also eerie drone footage posted of him throwing a stick just before he’s blown the frick up.

I saw that video. They maybe should have sat on that one instead of showing him "fight" until the very end. They'll spin it as him being a hero who fought "in the trenches".
Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:47 pm to
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Because the UN refuses to label Hamas a terrorist organization, and this dead piece of shite a terrorist, it has allowed Hamas to operate overtly within these "refugee camps". There are high ranking UN officials who no doubt shed tears this morning when this news broke. frick em all.


Exactly. A lot of those so-called peace loving members of the UN haven’t had the balls to call out Islamic Extremism because of a hatred towards the wrong group of people that they don’t have the balls to admit still exists.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:58 pm to
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I saw that video. They maybe should have sat on that one instead of showing him "fight" until the very end. They'll spin it as him being a hero who fought "in the trenches".


They will spin anything, but he just looked completely weak and defeated and just lobbed a hook shot towards the drone with the stick. The left here will play it up as murdered while surrendering.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Because the UN refuses to label Hamas a terrorist organization, and this dead piece of shite a terrorist, it has allowed Hamas to operate overtly within these "refugee camps".
There are high ranking UN officials who no doubt shed tears this morning when this news broke. frick em all.

Kamala studied the maps and said going into Rafah would be a mistake and didn’t want it to happen. Something something everything is bad because Trump running for election for 3.5 years had more power than 3.5 years of Biden-Harris in office…
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Posted by gizmothepug
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:25 pm to
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There’s also eerie drone footage posted of him throwing a stick just before he’s blown the frick up.


Things like that should show what some countries are truly capable of VS what they actually do. The way the major media networks across the US and world report on what’s going on will continue to brainwash people into siding with a group of people that would kill them without thinking twice about it.
Posted by ned nederlander
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Sinwar has been killed


Sinwar is now Conpeace.

That’s a Spanglish joke for anyone keeping score at home.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/18/24 at 10:17 am to
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Sinwar is now Conpeace.

That’s a Spanglish joke for anyone keeping score at home.


I got it. That was pretty good
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Posted on 10/18/24 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/18/24 at 9:18 pm to
Hopefully, Israel has about 3 months to destroy what’s left of a couple terrorist organizations before the war machine dies back down across the world.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:49 am to
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Because of their small population, sustainment is an issue. The economic costs of fighting a long war are also very serious. You can't pull this many men out of the civilian economy without causing issues.
Posted by Radio One
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:17 pm to
“The IDF announces that Hezbollah official Hashem Safieddine was killed in an Israeli airstrike on Beirut earlier this month.

Safieddine, the head of Hezbollah’s executive council, was presumed to be the successor of Hassan Nasrallah following his assassination.

According to the military, Safieddine was killed alongside the head of the terror group’s intelligence division, Hussein Ali Hazima, during the strike on October 4.”

- Times of Israel live blog, 4:04 P.M. Eastern
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 5:45 pm to
Yes indeed! Another one bites the dust.
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IDF confirms Nasrallah's designated successor dead
Hashem Safieddine targeted in IDF strike earlier this month found dead with 25 others from Hezbollah's intelligence HQ, in the ruins of a bunker in the Dahieh, three weeks after the attack

Bam! Bonk! Pow!

Posted by mattfromnj
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Posted on 10/23/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Because of their small population, sustainment is an issue. The economic costs of fighting a long war are also very serious. You can't pull this many men out of the civilian economy without causing issues.


That's in part what killed Rhodesia. A never ending war that caused the male population to need to do 3-4 years active duty and then up to 6 months at a time on reserve duty until age 50 or so. That and sanctions crippled their economy though they won the war in the tactical sense easily.

The armchair warlord guy (though a weird guy who writes anime fantasy books) is right too. Even Israeli media is reporting about how there are neighborhoods now being cleared for the 4th or 5th time, like Jabalia in the north of Gaza. They've conducted the war as a series of raids basically. Go in, clear the area of Hamas, then leave. The civilians (and Hamas) then come back and build themselves up until the Israeli army needs to go back in again a few months later. This, combined with lots and lots of air strikes.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/23/24 at 4:53 pm to
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The armchair warlord guy (though a weird guy who writes anime fantasy books) is right too. Even Israeli media is reporting about how there are neighborhoods now being cleared for the 4th or 5th time, like Jabalia in the north of Gaza. They've conducted the war as a series of raids basically. Go in, clear the area of Hamas, then leave. The civilians (and Hamas) then come back and build themselves up until the Israeli army needs to go back in again a few months later. This, combined with lots and lots of air strikes.


And there's no way to win doing that

I think they have two options, declare victory and pull back, or forcibly expel the population.
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