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Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 5:12 pm to
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That's not what he said. He said Israel wasn't releasing any terrorists.



He's just trying to sort things out.

This gal though actually is a terrorist. She's just a failed terrorist who didn't kill anyone and only fricked herself up.

She's a broken, worthless human being who's worth swapping for an innocent child or two. Or at least I think so. Others disagree.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 5:23 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

This gal though actually is a terrorist.


Oh?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38442 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:21 pm to
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She's a broken, worthless human being who's worth swapping for an innocent child or two. Or at least I think so


And when she strikes again and actually succeeds?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Oh?


Yup.

She's been in prison I think about 8 or 9 years. She tried to go all car bomby or some such shite but ended up fricking herself up in a ball of flames. No one else was hurt. That's why they're putting her to good use.

Her and every person Israel is swapping for these children are utterly worthless and have no strategic value at all to the Israeli Government.

These are people who don't matter at all to Israel and they're being swapped for people who profoundly matter. Israeli children.

This swap is a solid deal and will save some very important lives.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:41 pm to
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And when she strikes again and actually succeeds?


She's not being released into Gaza and the Israeli Government will be monitoring these people very, very closely. They're not just being sent on their merry way.

With the way the Israeli Government is controlling this. I don't make the assumption she will strike again. There's no reason to make that assumption.

And if you believe (like most in this thread) that Israel is currently destroying and will ultimately destroy Hamas, then who will she or any of them report to? Does Hamas even have a significant command structure right now? The IDF is hunting these people down 24/7.

I don't want to put words in your mouth but it seems you make the assumption There's a reasonable probability she and all the rest of them hook back up with their boys. If I'm wrong in that, correct it.

But me? I make the assumption Israel isn't fricking around with this swap and won't allow that to happen. I assume they know exactly what they're doing.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:51 pm to
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And when she strikes again and actually succeeds?



Also on this point. Would Hamas even have her or any of them back? Since being in Israeli custody, would Hamas consider them compromised? Even if Hamas could in some way access them, would they have any greater value than some neighborhood propaganda?
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Also on this point. Would Hamas even have her or any of them back?


Yes. One of the prisoners exchanged a while back was one of the lead "masterminds" of October 7th.

You are excited about terrorists being returned to terrorize more.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38442 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:58 pm to
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With the way the Israeli Government is controlling this. I don't make the assumption she will strike again. There's no reason to make that assumption.


Sure there is. She is a terrorist. She did it once, she will do it again.

quote:

And if you believe (like most in this thread) that Israel is currently destroying and will ultimately destroy Hamas, then who will she or any of them report to? Does Hamas even have a significant command structure right now? The IDF is hunting these people down 24/7.


Hamas will be destroyed and another Hamas type will assume their throne and continue on their jihad.

There are only 2 solutions to this problem.
1) eradication of one side or the other.
2) one of the religions involved has a mass awakening and modernization of which the likes of this planet have never seen.

quote:

don't want to put words in your mouth but it seems you make the assumption There's a reasonable probability she and all the rest of them hook back up with their boys. If I'm wrong in that, correct it.


That’s the thing about terrorism. She doesn’t have to “report” to any goat fricker for orders. She doesn’t have to be welcomed back into the fold. hamas doesn’t have to trust her.

She can commit another terrorist act on her own.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33489 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:08 pm to
Apologies as I have not been in here in a bit and not sure if this has been posted

quote:

Matthew Foldi
@MatthewFoldi

Hamas terrorist ID next to his UN ID badge

American taxpayers fund this


https://twitter.com/MatthewFoldi/status/1728531239118798947/photo/1
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Hamas will be destroyed and another Hamas type will assume their throne and continue on their jihad.



Well ok. So with that in mind. If this is a perpetual cycle, then why not make the trade and save the lives of these children? It'll all just happen again anyway.

To assume your point will hold true and it might, then logic says save who you can now. The violence will be endless and ongoing. And to take it a step further, if this Hamas will only be replaced by a new one. Then why fight the war at all? Now that's a different discussion but a valid one nonetheless.

What difference does it make if the people Israel is releasing will commit more acts of violence or if it's an entirely new batch, with an entirely new Hamas? As far as you're concerned, once this Hamas is dead, a new one pops up and the cycle continues.

Look, I'm not saying your wrong but if you're right, then logic says save these children now, because it will never end anyway.

Why not go ahead and swap them for these children? If I understand you correctly, this shite will never end.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 7:42 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78363 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:02 pm to
As has been stated over and over and over and over. You are saying save these children so future children can be murdered (Israeli or Palestinian).

You are at least coming around. From calling them hostages orginally to recognizing that it isn't a matter of if, but when the released will try to kill again.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 8:03 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75093 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Hamas terrorist ID next to his UN ID badge


That sounds about right.

I mentioned earlier on in the thread that the problem with allowing aid into Gaza is the fact that the UN does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization. They, nor anyone, do no real background checks on those who work for/with the UN within Gaza. The aid goes into Gaza and directly to Hamas. Whatever is left over is then given to the Palestinian people.

So far in this war those proven to be terrorists or assisting in terrorism include:

-Journalists
-Doctors
-Nurses
-UN workers/representatives
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33489 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 11:20 pm to
OSINTDefender with some fire this evening


quote:

OSINTdefender
@sentdefender

Hamas as well as anyone who Supports them needs to be Eliminated and Erased from Existence.
10:54 PM · Nov 25, 2023

Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38331 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:09 am to
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This gal though actually is a terrorist. She's just a failed terrorist who didn't kill anyone and only fricked herself up.
FFS. You have no principles at all. You're posting strictly to feed your inexplicably inflated ego and demonstrate that by your willingness to shift the goalposts to anything you think will help you win the argument. You started out by claiming they were angsty rock throwers and now you're hand-waving attempted murderers and literal terror bombers.

I, for one, would appreciate it if you would just go jerk off in a mirror and stopped masturbating all over this thread.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 2:11 am
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9605 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:07 am to
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The Defense Ministry announces that during operations in the Gaza Strip, forces seized some NIS 5 million in cash, along with Iraqi dinar, Jordanian dinar, and US dollars, from Hamas strongholds and homes of operatives. The money will be forfeited for the state.



quote:

FaithMaker @ConquestVi2036 1h Replying to @manniefabian @IsraelWarRoom Those are some spanky new $100 dollar bills from the US with the blue security strip, in stacks of $10k, guestimate about $300k to $400k at least, from what I can easily see. That is A LOT of US cash on hand fresh from the mint, & your everyday Pally doesn’t have access to that.
Nitter link.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5895 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:45 am to
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The Defense Ministry announces that during operations in the Gaza Strip, forces seized some NIS 5 million in cash, along with Iraqi dinar, Jordanian dinar, and US dollars, from Hamas strongholds and homes of operatives. The money will be forfeited for the state.


Who is the state in this scenario?
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
5051 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 8:54 am to
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There’s even a trend of some highly lefty gen z tik tokers “converting” (including women) to Islam or at least learning more about to show solidarity or something. I doubt most of them are actually converting so if anything they’re insulting Muslims


I can’t wait until all of the sex positive thots convert then make a pilgrimage. That’ll turn out great.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am to
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Who is the state in this scenario?


Israel
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:24 am to
Below is an article from the Jerusalem Post outlining the children who were released in this exchange. It's warming and hopeful to see. Especially this time of year.

Prayers have been answered and I'm sure so many of us can breathe a little easier knowing these children will be spared from unspeakable horrors.

The Israeli Government showed its character in this exchange and I for one applaud them. Hopefully others in this thread will as well.

May God bless these children and the people who love them.


LINK
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75093 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:37 am to
A few who were released after being dragged from their homes and held for nearly two months, with their ages:

@AvivaKlompas
quote:

This is the reported list of Israeli hostages released tonight:
1. Abigail Idan, 4
2. Ella Elyakim, 8
3. Dafna Elyakim, 15
4. Hagar Brodetz Ama, 40 and her children
5. Ofri Brodetz, 10
6. Yuval Brodetz, 8
7. Oriya Brodetz, 4
8. Chen Goldstein, 48 and her children
9. Agam Goldstein, 17
10. Tal Goldstein, 9
11. Gal Goldstein, 11
12. Alma Avraham, 84
13. Adrian Aviva Siegel, 63


A reminder of what they witnessed before they were kidnapped by terrorists:

Graphic video
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:40 am
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