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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Central to all these protester's message is a ceasefire. They, and some in leadership along with the UN (which still doesn't even recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization) demand it. Israel not agreeing to an immediate ceasefire is a non-starter for them.

So, yes......people are 100% saying that Israel shouldn't "go after" Hamas.


nope, you know good and well that the call for the ceasefire is strictly for humanitarian reasons to get aid in. its not to give Hamas a pass or to give up on eliminating them.

dozens of UN aid workers have been killed by israel and thousands of dead civilians...its a clusterfrick on the ground and a pause is definitely needed to get children and the wounded out.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:55 pm to
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nope, you know good and well that the call for the ceasefire is strictly for humanitarian reasons to get aid in

Nope, you're wrong again.

They want a "pause" for that.

Try again.

ETA: And aid is getting in. How much actually makes it to the people, or even how much would make it to them even with a full ceasefire, is the question.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 5:00 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 4:56 pm to
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dozens of UN aid workers have been killed by israel and thousands of dead civilians...its a clusterfrick on the ground and a pause is definitely needed to get children and the wounded out.

Here's a note for you:

Hamas wanted those people dead. Period.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:22 pm to
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quote:
Palestine predates Islam too.


Palestine is I believe Greek in its origins and translates into Philistia.. The Romans simply carried forward the term

Previous to the Greek influence, the land was referred to as Canaan

Does anyone find it sadly amusing that "Palestinian" Arabs are fighting to be referred to something that originated outside of the Arab culture..



Goes further back than that. Likely originates from the Peleset people who were one of the Sea People invasion clans, now believed to have originated somewhere in the Aegean basin. We're talking ancient, ancient, ancient times - like they were historical contemporaries of Rameses and the Jewish exodus from Egypt.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:26 pm to
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They did. By that logic, you also think all Germans were nazis because hitler came to power. And also all Americans are democrats because Biden was elected.


But by that logic should the same fate fall upon Biden voters that fell upon the German nation post WWII? To willfully turn a blind eye is wrong and trying to justify for Hamas makes you now better than them.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:27 pm to
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I have yet to see anybody state that Israel shouldn’t go after Hamas.

Also, it seems that your brain is incapable of processing the fact that Hamas and the Palestinian people are not the same thing. Can’t help with that mate.

Who were these nazi sympathizers? You mean people that felt sorry for the German civilians who had nothing to do with hitler coming to power getting killed? You have no compassion for all those innocent german families that got massacred in the Nuremberg bombings…got it. Well, I do because I’m a sane and reasonable human being with morals.

Just come out and admit that you believe in collective punishment. That’s what you’re really getting at. That’s your MO and it’s a real dumb one


oh holy fricking shite at this entire post.

The outright irony in every line.

also...

quote:


I have yet to see


We're back to this again.

"I haven't seen it therefore it does not exist."
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:31 pm to
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ETA: And aid is getting in. How much actually makes it to the people, or even how much would make it to them even with a full ceasefire, is the question.





It's so absolutely obvious that the dipshit hasn't paid attention to one fricking thing going on over there other than "palestinians died".
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Also, it seems that your brain is incapable of processing the fact that Hamas and the Palestinian people are not the same thing. Can’t help with that mate.


Then why won’t your precious members of the Squad publicly denouncing Hamas? Why are you degenerate college students chanting “from the river to the sea”, a Hamas chant calling for the extermination of Israel. Why can’t you admit that watched the Palestinian crowds cheering the October 7th is in fact support of Hamas?
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Hamas wanted those people dead. Period.



you can keep stating the obvious all you want. 'hamas wanted un aid workers dead'...no sh** sherlock. nobody here is defending Hamas so i dont know why you keep kicking that dead horse. the discussion is way past 'hamas is evil and has to go'.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Boodis Man

Your participation in this thread is......curious.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:37 pm to
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Why are you degenerate college students chanting “from the river to the sea”, a Hamas chant calling for the extermination of Israel. Why can’t you admit that watched the Palestinian crowds cheering the October 7th is in fact support of Hamas?





counter-point from boodis: "Nuh uhhhh!"
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:38 pm to
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nobody here is defending Hamas


but you certainly have yet to blame Hamas....
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:39 pm to
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Your participation in this thread is......curious.



Occam's razor usually leads you to the correct answer.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:44 pm to
Visegrad24 (Video)

"Many of you will remember the pizza restaurant in the West Bank which was bulldozered after the owner mocked a Holocaust survivor taken hostage by Hamas.

Israel continues raiding people who support terrorism online.

Will the EU ever learn how to do it?"
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:53 pm to
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that's because you're an idiot mate. cheers


Pretty much the entire board is telling you that you are way out of bounds….yet you continue. I do believe the poster that brought up Mark Twain is right.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:58 pm to
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nope, you know good and well that the call for the ceasefire is strictly for humanitarian reasons to get aid in. its not to give Hamas a pass or to give up on eliminating them.

dozens of UN aid workers have been killed by israel and thousands of dead civilians...its a clusterfrick on the ground and a pause is definitely needed to get children and the wounded out.



The only way that would happen is if Hamas turned over every HOSTAGE. You keep forgetting about the +240 HOSTAGES, taken from their homes in Israel, into Gaza. Otherwise tough shite, the civilians had 3 weeks to “de-de moi”. Anyone one left there is a supporter and fair game.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:47 pm to
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Just come out and admit that you believe in collective punishment. That’s what you’re really getting at. That’s your MO and it’s a real dumb one


It’s called war, and Hamas started it by “collectively punishing” Israel. I absolutely sympathize and feel a level of human sadness for innocent Palestinians, especially children. But you have to live in the real world and understand consequences.

If there really are 2 million innocent Palestinians, they should be able to rally and overthrow Hamas if they are overwhelming majority. That would be martyrdom anyone could get behind.

No anti Hamas Palestinians infiltrated that could have sent warning before the attack? Or can’t send information about the hostages still missing? Or the tunnel systems built in very public spaces like hospitals, schools, fairgrounds?

We live in Information Age, why aren’t there videos of Palestinian resistant groups putting out anti Hamas messages?

Maybe if more world leaders and prominent Muslim leaders in the US called out Hamas, it would help Palestine overthrow because they would know they have support.

Or, you know, if people at all these pro Palestinians rallies chanted “frick Hamas!” “Overthrow Hamas!” “Death to Hamas!” then it would help end Hamas propaganda in Palestine.

Interesting how none of that is happening, though, isn’t it?
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:57 pm to
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It’s called war, and Hamas started it by “collectively punishing” Israel. I absolutely sympathize and feel a level of human sadness for innocent Palestinians, especially children. But you have to live in the real world and understand consequences.

If there really are 2.1 million innocent Palestinians, they should be able to rally and overthrow Hamas if they are overwhelming majority. That would be martyrdom anyone could get behind.

No anti Hamas Palestinians infiltrated that could have sent warning before the attack? Or can’t send information about the hostages still missing? Or the tunnel systems built in very public spaces like hospitals, schools, fairgrounds?

We live in Information Age, why aren’t there videos of Palestinianresistant groups putting out anti Hamas messages?


Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:15 pm to
Also for all the "genocide" talk and calls for a "pause" or ceasefire, it is odd that a humanitarian corridor has been established.....by Israel, and that humanitarian corridor is currently being defended by Israel against......Hamas.

That is an evacuation corridor heading south out of northern Gaza established by the murderous, vindictive, hateful, genocidal Israeli military. It has come under attack by Hamas terrorists multiple times already. Of course, they say the Israelis are actually the ones who have attacked it.
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