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re: ISIS has beheaded American journalist James Foley
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:20 am to lsupride87
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No offense taken. I know thats what the Bible says, but that isnt what I chose to believe. The God I chose to believe, doesnt judge a man by the words he speaks or the church he goes to or the people he trys to convert, but by the actions he takes. In my heaven, people who have denied God even exists, but lead good lives and treat other people with compassion, still get in
So your heaven is something you just chose to make up
with no scripture evidence. People who don't believe, die lost. There will be tons of "good" people that will go to hell. Pretty much the entire NT refutes this line of thinking. The point of having a "Savior- Jesus Christ" is to save you from damnation. Without him, the sin is not atoned for and by biblical law, you're worthy of death for your sin is rebellion against God.
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:20 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Should have said if you believe in the bible.
Which one?
ETA: Damnit Topwater
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:21 am to Mo Jeaux
The first one
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:22 am to boom roasted
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I have no preconceived hate for Darth. Don't care about him either way. But when you say with 100% confidence that I would do _____ in the same situation, that's ignorant. He might just do it, but to rule out the possibility of being broken is ignorant.
Sorry, was in a meeting. But to address this. Where did I ever say anything about "100% confidence" or where did I "rule out the possibility"? I said what I in my heart believe I'd do in that situation. It's not me being a "bad arse" and there is nothing "Rambo" about it. All I'm saying that that I'd not give them the final victory of hearing me read those words if I knew without a shadow of a doubt they were about to kill me. Now if I thought reading those words would save my life, then that's a different story. But if there is no hope left and I know they're going to kill me no matter what I do, I'm at least going to deny them a total victory over me.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:23 am to Cajun Revolution
quote:I refuse to believe that greater than 2/3rds of the earth's population is wrong and is going to hell for believing something else.
People who don't believe, die lost. There will be tons of "good" people that will go to hell.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:24 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Asked and answered.
Where did I ever say anything about "100% confidence"
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:24 am to boom roasted
We were created with weakness so that we can find strength in him. We were given free will with the hopes we would turn to Christ for strength, and then be given the spoils of being strong through him
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:24 am to Cajun Revolution
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People who don't believe, die lost. There will be tons of "good" people that will go to hell. Pretty much the entire NT refutes this line of thinking. The point of having a "Savior- Jesus Christ" is to save you from damnation. Without him, the sin is not atoned for and by biblical law, you're worthy of death for your sin is rebellion against God.
This topic was addressed at my church one time and here was the response
"If some random stranger came to your house at night and knocked on the door asking to stay the night, would you let him in? No. Even if he said "I am a good guy!" would you still let him in? Probably not, because you don't know him.
Heaven is the same way. If you don't have a relationship with Jesus and did not commit your life to Jesus, you won't get let in. Why? Because Jesus doesn't know you because you rejected him"
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:25 am to boom roasted
Try like 9.9/10 of the entire world population. Narrow is the way to life, but broad is the way that leads to destruction.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:And if that same weakness causes you to falter, he will sentence to you eternal damnation?
We were created with weakness so that we can find strength in him.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:26 am to Cajun Revolution
quote:So 99% of the earth's population will be sentenced to eternal damnation because they either (a) believe in something else or (b) haven't been exposed to Jesus Christ?
Try like 9.9/10 of the entire world population.
quote:Spare me the quotes and talk like a regular person.
Narrow is the way to life, but broad is the way that leads to destruction.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:26 am to Cajun Revolution
quote:
Try like 9.9/10 of the entire world population
so only a tenth will make it to heaven?
what about babies that die in the first few months of life?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:27 am to Topwater Trout
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i watched one from a long time ago...no desire to watch another one
Me too but everyone needs to watch one to understand just 1 of the enemies we are facing.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:27 am to boom roasted
Have y'all watched this video? It looks fake to me. No blood when he starts sawing on his throat and then they cut away to the beheaded body. If you are trying to send a message and scare Americans, why edit the most graphic part?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:27 am to boom roasted
quote:
And if that same weakness causes you to falter, he will sentence to you eternal damnation?
The wages of sin is death
The only way to atone for our sins to prevent death is to accept the sacrificial blood of Jesus to cover those sins
Jesus's blood was innocent and therefore it is used as a ransom. It follows the same trajectory as a passover lamb.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:28 am to boom roasted
The Bible says, even the rocks cry out. Nature is it's own missionary for the Lord.
Yes, those who were not covered through Old Testament Covenant (believing/depending on a future savior through sacrifice) or New Covenant (sacrifice of Christ at Cross). With the exception of those children, which did not meet the age of accountability (which I personally believe varies by exposure, etc.)
Yes, those who were not covered through Old Testament Covenant (believing/depending on a future savior through sacrifice) or New Covenant (sacrifice of Christ at Cross). With the exception of those children, which did not meet the age of accountability (which I personally believe varies by exposure, etc.)
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:29 am to boom roasted
If you don't repent or turn to him for strength when you need it, that's what the book says.
A lot of the bible has to do with being unselfish. God gave his son for his fellow man. Denouncing god to save yourself from being killed could be seen as selfish and I can't pretend to know how god would treat that
A lot of the bible has to do with being unselfish. God gave his son for his fellow man. Denouncing god to save yourself from being killed could be seen as selfish and I can't pretend to know how god would treat that
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:29 am to Wtodd
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Me too but everyone needs to watch one to understand just 1 of the enemies we are facing.
No thanks. I couldn't sleep last night because I couldn't get the images of another ISIS video I saw yesterday out of my head.
The video where they were taking prisoners one by one, to a dock over a lake, shooting them in the head, throwing their body into the lake, and onto the next victim.
Never again.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:29 am to goldennugget
quote:Anyone care to translate that for me?
The wages of sin is death
The only way to atone for our sins to prevent death is to accept the sacrificial blood of Jesus to cover those sins
Jesus's blood was innocent and therefore it is used as a ransom. It follows the same trajectory as a passover lamb.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:29 am to Cajun Revolution
Similar to an earlier post in here, I would think that if you are a believer and were placed in that situation(renounce your faith or die) that God would give you the courage in that moment to hold fast to your faith, the words to proclaim it, and comfort and peace for the moments that followed as you exited this world.
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