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re: ISIS has beheaded American journalist James Foley
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:45 am to BigEdLSU
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:45 am to BigEdLSU
quote:No offense taken. I know thats what the Bible says, but that isnt what I chose to believe. The God I chose to believe, doesnt judge a man by the words he speaks or the church he goes to or the people he trys to convert, but by the actions he takes. In my heaven, people who have denied God even exists, but lead good lives and treat other people with compassion, still get in
Christ himself said if you deny him in front of men, he will deny you in front of the father.
Its really crystal clear. Don't mean to offend.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:47 am to BigEdLSU
quote:So if you show human weakness (the same weakness put there by god himself) in front of other men, he will spite you and relegate you to eternal damnation? That's a fricked up god. I refuse to believe in that perception of god.
Christ himself said if you deny him in front of men, he will deny you in front of the father.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:47 am to lsupride87
Not here to argue. Won't argue with you.
Will offer to buy you lunch and explain why I feel what I believe.
Will offer to buy you lunch and explain why I feel what I believe.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:47 am to BigEdLSU
Suffering is what we sign up for when we are Christians. There are Saints before us, true Martyrs, who died standing for Christ.
Denouncing our faith in the face of various trials should be not be acceptable.
Denouncing our faith in the face of various trials should be not be acceptable.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:47 am to lsupride87
Someone tell me where I can see the video. Ive tried Google and not having any luck.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:49 am to BigEdLSU
quote:Not arguing. Dont want to come across that way
Not here to argue. Won't argue with you.
Will offer to buy you lunch and explain why I feel what I believe.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:49 am to BigEdLSU
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:49 am to tankyank13
It's on "Liveleak." However, they show the beginning and the aftermath. It is possible it was staged, but I doubt it. Brutal.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:50 am to Geauxrilla Ballz
quote:I respect that. I just chose to believe in a God that isnt in it for praise or people dying for him. My God loves non-believers just as much as believers as long as they are good people
Suffering is what we sign up for when we are Christians. There are Saints before us, true Martyrs, who died standing for Christ.
Denouncing our faith in the face of various trials should be not be acceptable.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:52 am to BigEdLSU
The thing that gets me is, what would I do in a situation in which they threatened to kill the life of another innocent soul depending on my words. Now you're faced with a serious moral dilemma.
People in here saying they wouldn't denounce God if a gun was pointed at their head-would you do it if a gun was pointed at your fellow man's head?
I have never been in a situation like that, so I can't pretend to know what I would do.
People in here saying they wouldn't denounce God if a gun was pointed at their head-would you do it if a gun was pointed at your fellow man's head?
I have never been in a situation like that, so I can't pretend to know what I would do.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:53 am to lsupride87
quote:If I were to believe in God, this is the one I would choose to believe. One that doesn't care about procedure - going to church, standing up at the right time, saying the right phrases at the right time, partaking in the sacraments, etc. He wants people to help others. To make this world a better place. If that means you have to deny him in order to survive and continue to help others and make this world a better place, then so be it.
My God loves non-believers just as much as believers as long as they are good people
It doesn't matter if you worship rocks; if you make the world a better place, you're good in his eyes.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:54 am to When in Rome
quote:
situation in which they threatened to kill the life of another innocent soul depending on my words.
if you saved that person and yourself wouldn't you have time to make your actions right with god?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:54 am to When in Rome
That case is different. It's an unselfish act to save another. You would also be able to "accept" Jesus again
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:56 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
If you denounce him to save your arse, that's it? No apologizing and making things right?
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:56 am to tankyank13
pretty sure if you google the journalist name and liveleak you can find it.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:56 am to boom roasted
What if they kill you anyway?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:56 am to boom roasted
quote:Thats how he is in my eyes. Everything else is just fluff in my humble opinion
If I were to believe in God, this is the one I would choose to believe. One that doesn't care about procedure - going to church, standing up at the right time, saying the right phrases at the right time, partaking in the sacraments, etc. He wants people to help others. To make this world a better place. If that means you have to deny him in order to survive and continue to help others and make this world a better place, then so be it.
It doesn't matter if you worship rocks; if you make the world a better place, you're good in his eyes.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:57 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
still have time to asks for forgiveness...you can just think it immediately after saying it right?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:57 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Then hopefully the almighty can forgive your human weakness; that same weakness put there by his own hands. I refuse to believe that a god that powerful can be that petty.
What if they kill you anyway?
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:59 am to boom roasted
Denouncing him in the selfish act of saving yourself is kind of the point of that scripture
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