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Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:59 am to
I believe in God. I beleive he sent his son Jesus to make the ultimate sacrifice for me and my sins. I hope i never have to make the choice to denounce God or die, bit if i am.. i hope i am strong enough to stand up for what i believe in and a witness for other to accept Christ as their Lord and savioir.

for those who dont believe, that is your choice. Everyone has a choice
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:02 am to
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Denouncing him in the selfish act of saving yourself is kind of the point of that scripture
Then I disagree with that part of the scripture.

Saying the words doesn't mean you believe them. I would hope god can understand that. I don't want to believe in a god that can't.

I don't understand why he would want you to die when you can say some meaningless phrase and spend the rest of your life making the world a better place and spreading his word.

I was thinking about this hypo last night: "Either tell your SO that you don't love her or die." I would say those words in a second and she wouldn't fault me for it because she knows they carry no meaning. shite, she would be begging me to say it.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:09 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:03 am to
It's not the words, it's the choice you are making



I guess it would get hairy when you are broken down to that, but I doubt He forgives you saying it willy nilly just to save yourself
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111304 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:05 am to
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Then I disagree with that part of the scripture.

Saying the words doesn't mean you believe them. I would hope god can understand that. I don't want to believe in a god that can't.
I think me and you could be really good irl friends
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:06 am to
That weakness you're showing is a weakness put there by god himself. Faulting you for that weakness is petty and I refuse to believe that.

It's like making a car with three wheels and getting pissed when it drives in circles.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:13 am
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:07 am to
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I doubt He forgives you saying it willy nilly just to save yourself
Isn't he all about forgiveness?
Posted by sumtimeitbeslikedat
Vidalia, La
Member since Nov 2013
5011 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:07 am to
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He claims to be a devout Christian yet wants to "glass" entire communities of people? That doesn't sound very Christian-like to me. His messages completely contradict one another.


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Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:08 am to
I'm not trying to force you to believe anything. But if a person believes in God's word, there wasn't a whole lot of room for personal interpretation
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:10 am to
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Isn't he all about forgiveness?



If a person believes in one god, but bends to the will of another to save their arse, isn't that person now their god?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:10 am to
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I'm not trying to force you to believe anything.
I know. I'm not trying to force you to believe anything either. Just having a civil debate.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:10 am to
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If a person believes in one god, but bends to the will of another to save their arse, isn't that person now their god?
No. How did you come to that conclusion?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:14 am to
Brcause he has put the threats of one "god" over another
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:14 am to
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Brcause he has put the threats of one "god" over another
I still don't follow how that makes a human being your god.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:16 am
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:16 am to
Not in the literal sense that you would now pray to that person.


Kind of like how people say "money is his God"
Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:16 am to
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Christ himself said if you deny him in front of men, he will deny you in front of the father.

Its really crystal clear. Don't mean to offend.


If you are ashamed. Peter even had a lapse of faith.

I think though if its what is in your heart, your words will never betray you.

I do not consider myself "hardcore" but at the end of the day, my life is in the hands of the Lord. If he wills me to be rescued, he will provide a way. If death comes, so be it.

Matthew 16:25 : "For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70011 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:16 am to
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But if a person believes in God's word, there wasn't a whole lot of room for personal interpretation


to be fair there can be many different interpretaions of his words right?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:17 am to
Has Darthbo been up in here yet today?
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:17 am to
You're losing me.

Can I ask your take on my posts about god creating us with human weakness and then faulting us for that same weakness?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36754 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:18 am to
Should have said if you believe in the bible. It goes back to the literal vs figurative interpretations


Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70011 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:19 am to
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Should have said if you believe in the bible.


which one?
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