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re: Is this the death of Chick-fil-A

Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:57 pm to
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No, because I didn't state profit, I stated revenue. Slackster is assuming something else.


But revenue alone doesn't mean jack shite.

ETA - you're probably not wrong that CFA is more successful (profitable) per location, but revenue alone doesn't measure that. That's all I'm saying.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32116 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:58 pm to
Popeyes fad will last at most a few more weeks, then Chick-fil-A will stand til the end of eternity.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 8:55 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50102 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:59 pm to
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total sales

Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25050 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:02 pm to
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I have a business degree so I may be a little more business savvy than you. But if Chick-Fil-A has a 4 to 1 revenue advantage over Popeyes, Popeyes will not be the death of Chick-Fil-A.



I mean not necessarily. If their expenses are way more (ie paying their employees more to be nice etc)., rent is more expensive (CFA are always in nice places) and higher end ingredients (potentially), means their EBITDA and Net Income could be much lower than your revenue metric is implying it is. I've seen tons of companies who have a lot of revenue but don't control expenses well at all and go into Chapter 11
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18933 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:04 pm to
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But revenue alone doesn't mean jack shite.


It does when you see they have nearly the same number of locations. When RB produces their Top 500 list, CFA is around #7 while Popeye's is #25 or so. The rest of the top 10 on the list is dominated by chains with 10,000+ locations. CFA punches well above their weight for a reason and Popeye's doesn't.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:04 pm to
shite, GE brought in $121B in revenue last year.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18933 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:06 pm to
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total sales


Yes dumbass, revenue. I didn't state profit or anything else. Go find my first post in the thread and try reading it for yourself.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:10 pm to
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It does when you see they have nearly the same number of locations.


No, it doesn't.

quote:

When RB produces their Top 500 list, CFA is around #7 while Popeye's is #25 or so. The rest of the top 10 on the list is dominated by chains with 10,000+ locations. CFA punches well above their weight for a reason and Popeye's doesn't.


Punching above their weight is expensive. They pay top dollar.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18933 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:11 pm to
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ETA - you're probably not wrong that CFA is more successful (profitable) per location, but revenue alone doesn't measure that. That's all I'm saying.


I didn't say it did. I simply put total revenue and the number of locations for each chain in the same year, that data is much more readily available. The margins across that industry are in a narrow range across the board so CFA profits probably mirror that revenue ratio too.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141566 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:12 pm to
Popeyes and Chick-Fil-A fixed costs are going to be somewhat similar.

Popeyes poses no threat to Chick-Fil-A.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22803 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:16 pm to
Nah, CFA will be fine. Good service will beat out shitty service.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18933 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:16 pm to
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Punching above their weight is expensive. They pay top dollar.


If one location is pulling in $4M and the other is barely making $1M, and they are literally a few blocks from each other, I seriously doubt CFA is paying enough to make a significant dent in the profit margin. In fact the average for CFA is $9.85/hour vs Popeye's $9.19/hour.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55005 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:20 pm to
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All they need to do is serve it at Buckeyes, and you people are all set.


What do you mean, you people?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50102 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:25 pm to
Yup I apologize. I’m dumb
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:26 pm to
Fair enough. I agree with your ultimately conclusion. Just pointing out that profit is what makes you successful, not revenue.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6863 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:28 pm to
Had it tonight. The location was slammed but surprisingly moved ok. I’m used to 10 people ahead of me taking 40 minutes (whereas at cfa 40 people takes less than 10 minutes). Drive through was moving slow but inside despite the line was moving well.

I had spicy and wife had regular - both enjoyed them very much.

That being said - cfa ain’t going anywhere and will still be my choice.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
8000 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:28 pm to
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Passed by one


Wow, that's a hell of a sample size.



Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31835 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Passed by one on the way home from work... never have I seen the drive thru so empty... literally 5 cars were in the parking lot


It’s the first Friday night of the school year.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:49 pm to
The only thing that CFA does better than Popeyes is having clean bathrooms.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18702 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:54 pm to
I go to CFA more frequently than I’d like to admit, I haven’t defected to Popeyes and the lines haven’t gotten any shorter at CFA. If anything this “war” is probably getting increased sales for both parties
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