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re: Is this new Cross fit gif Germans?

Posted on 5/5/14 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by Geauxingthedistance
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 9:59 pm to
The lift when done correctly that is. Not like the clown in the OP. I agree with you there isn't much necessity for it in general fitness.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:00 pm to
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The lift is designed to train/enhance the fast twitch muscle fibers resulting in more explosiveness. Same as a power clean.
if you woulda said a rebound or a catch and dunk. I'd agree . A layup, not that much. Won't hurt. Not the best choice though
Posted by Geauxingthedistance
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:03 pm to
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if you woulda said a rebound or a catch and dunk. I'd agree . A layup, not that much. Won't hurt. Not the best choice though


i had rebound and deleted it before typing. When i say lay up, i mean in traffic driving up at the basket. Not standing flat footed in warm ups. Not much difference in the need for a burst between putting the ball up and taking the ball back down on a rebound.
Posted by Geauxingthedistance
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:04 pm to
i would make the case that this lift can benefit all athletes whose sport requires any anaerobic activity.
Posted by Schmelly
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:06 pm to
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i had rebound and deleted it before typing. When i say lay up, i mean in traffic driving up at the basket. Not standing flat footed in warm ups. Not much difference in the need for a burst between putting the ball up and taking the ball back down on a rebound.
gotcha, I'm thinking layup as "drive to the basket, leap off one foot". It's an effective exercise, that's unquestionable. I use a couple substitutes that don't require all the technical aspects of the Olympic variation
Posted by Schmelly
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:07 pm to
Benefit isn't in doubt. It's risk vs reward
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:08 pm to
Why not just emphasize power cleans/c&js?

Hell, even plain old thrusters can accomplish what you want with minimal risk compared to snatches.
Posted by Geauxingthedistance
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:09 pm to
Gotcha. What kind of training do you do?

I do snatches from time to time. I don't have a real necessity for it, but it is what it is. I at least like to think that it may give me a few more yards off the tee-box.

Haven't done it with serious weight since the glory days of HS football.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:11 pm to
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Other than people who are competing in Olympic style lifting, that shite doesn't benefit anyone.



Do what?
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15692 posts
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:11 pm to
Snatches demand a shite ton of function from the shoulders. 90% of the people I see doing them, have dysfunction in the shoulder
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:11 pm to
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have you ever done a snatch?


Just finished. I'm smoking a Benson and Hedges now.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:13 pm to
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Snatches demand a shite ton of function from the shoulders.


I thought is was money.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Gotcha. What kind of training do you do? I do snatches from time to time. I don't have a real necessity for it, but it is what it is. I at least like to think that it may give me a few more yards off the tee-box. Haven't done it with serious weight since the glory days of HS football.
mostly post rehab, and gen pop. now. Used to train athletes, mostly HS. But really don't care for it. I may be the only person ever to say that, lol
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Benefit isn't in doubt. It's risk vs reward



I'd agree with that. I only take issue with what the original dude said.

Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Haven't done it with serious weight since the glory days of HS football
maintain a good quality snatch and I can prolly assure you that your body is functioning pretty well. Weight is irrelevant, don't focus in that.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:17 pm to
Take issue with it.

Making that lift a core part of a crossfit regime is retarded. It has no place in the hands of amateur lifters under the wrong coaching.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:19 pm to
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teach them regularly. If I was trying to improve a bball players explosiveness on a layup, the snatch wouldn't be in the top 10. But go ahead and explain, I'll listen



I wasnt talking about basketball. Just when someone said(i thought it was you) that they have no benefit
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:19 pm to
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I'd agree with that. I only take issue with what the original dude said.
absolutes. Don't deal in them. Lol
The problem with people doing any exercise is not the exercise, it's the application of the exercise. They're either not ready , capable or qualified
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:20 pm to
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Making that lift a core part of a crossfit regime is retarded. It has no place in the hands of amateur lifters under the wrong coaching.
i like u
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:21 pm to
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Making that lift a core part of a crossfit regime is retarded.


I agree with this also.

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It has no place in the hands of amateur lifters under the wrong coaching.


I agree with this also.

You said it benefits no one other than people training Oly Lifting. This is going way too far. There is a ton of beneficial carry over to other sports. Proper coaching is a must though.
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