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re: Is there anyone here who still doesn't believe in climate change?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:49 am to CrimsonFever
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:49 am to CrimsonFever
I bet you’ve done a lot of heat transfer calculations. After you calculate the temperature of the rod sticking out of your arse, you can start on multiphase systems for entire planets.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:49 am
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:16 am to CrimsonFever
More acceptable to those who deny human-influenced global warming is environmental pollution. It’s easier to see. Third world countries are the worst polluters with India and China leading the way but all population centers are contributing to the problem.
The human population is nearly 8 billion and their distribution across the planet can be illustrated by this photo:
The lights represent one third of the total number of humans. Third-world areas don’t have the wealth that brings light.
Humans, like any other species, will consume their environment until it can no longer sustain them. Inevitably, a Malthusian-type catastrophe is in our future, as it is with any species that overpopulates its environment, unless we stop reproducing at will and begin to manage our planet and its resources.
David Attenborough, in his twilight years, is pleading for humans to wake up before it’s too late. I don’t think enough people are listening to him.
The human population is nearly 8 billion and their distribution across the planet can be illustrated by this photo:
The lights represent one third of the total number of humans. Third-world areas don’t have the wealth that brings light.
Humans, like any other species, will consume their environment until it can no longer sustain them. Inevitably, a Malthusian-type catastrophe is in our future, as it is with any species that overpopulates its environment, unless we stop reproducing at will and begin to manage our planet and its resources.
David Attenborough, in his twilight years, is pleading for humans to wake up before it’s too late. I don’t think enough people are listening to him.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:26 am to Kentucker
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we stop reproducing at will and begin to manage our planet and its resources.
WE are not "reproducing at will".
The 3rd world is.
"Evil" white people sure as Hell are not.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:34 am to CrimsonFever
It is real, humans are contributing to it to some extent. I am for moving towards lesa damaging energy solutions in due time and with heavy investment into renewable energy that provides a net positive impact on the environment and think the US should help lead the way for that innovation.
I dont buy in to the "we are fricked if we arent carbon neutral by 2035 type logic." I dont think the way the conversations is currently framed by the climate change zealots or the climate change deniers is helplful in either case as it is stifling real study, understanding and innovation
I dont buy in to the "we are fricked if we arent carbon neutral by 2035 type logic." I dont think the way the conversations is currently framed by the climate change zealots or the climate change deniers is helplful in either case as it is stifling real study, understanding and innovation
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:19 am to Sneaky__Sally
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I dont buy in to the "we are fricked if we arent carbon neutral by 2035 type logic." I
I get that because obviously it's not planet ending for us or anything, it just makes mitigation in the future more challenging the longer developed and developing countries get to carbon neutral.
Climate change is happening, and human activity is the primary driver.
That being said fossil fuels aren't evil, they'll be necessary parts of our energy sourcing in the future too (unless we make fusion happen) but we'll need other sources (including nuclear) to take a bigger share of the generation pie. We'll still need sources of hydrocarbons for materials production in the future too.
The thing is the longer we wait to invest in mitigation and carbon neutral energy generation, the more expensive it becomes to mitigate.
The good thing is, a decent slice of what we need to do industry is already incentivized to do. Efficiency in production of things is going to be important. Computer tech has let researchers pre-deisgn catalysts that reduces the activation energy in many chemical processes, modern material science creating materials that allow for more efficiency, and automation.
The government does need to come in with funds to modernize the energy grid, improve infrastructure, and start planning how we're going to move people who live in places that won't be viable in the future.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:23 am to Duke
Go back to Reddit. Thanks.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:32 am to fallguy_1978
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The US taxpayers will be footing the largest portion of the bill
we'll just print more money, its the new normal
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:59 am to sgallo3
I don’t know much about any of this as I’m a simple man. All I know is that when I see a complex system, with unknown variables, I try and find the nearest 9 year old to solve it and take orders from.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 12:40 pm to CrimsonFever
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Climate change is a long-term change
quote:Is 2019 now defined as long-term
With 2019
Posted on 2/20/21 at 12:44 pm to gthog61
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WE are not "reproducing at will".
It doesn’t matter who the “we” are. We’re all on the same planet.
Reproducing at will means there aren’t any societal restrictions on having as many children as you want. Even the Chinese have eased their one child per family policy and the Indians have stopped throwing as many of their female babies in the Ganges as they once did.
Consumerism has brought prosperity to both nations and they have responded by increasing their populations. Sex is perhaps the strongest drive we humans have after eating, drinking and sleeping. Reproduction is the natural result of sex and their is very little human will to limit either.
I just hope that we’re able to design our machine successor species before we breed ourselves to extinction.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 12:46 pm to arcalades
Climate change is real, but the lefts interpretation of it is like reading the last page of a 10,000 page book and writing a book report.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:37 pm to Koach K
So if we heat up does this mean more rain? Isn’t that evaporative cooling?
But hey, China can put all the particulate matter (which probably helps facilitate rain) in the atmosphere just as long they continue to supply the China-class in this country with cheap goods.
But hey, China can put all the particulate matter (which probably helps facilitate rain) in the atmosphere just as long they continue to supply the China-class in this country with cheap goods.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:39 pm to CrimsonFever
I just dropped by to down-vote the OP because he's a fricking idiot.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:42 pm to Centinel
Centinel, don’t be fossil fool, bro.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:47 pm to Paul Allen
Paul, thou may ingest a satchel of Richards.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:59 pm to Koach K
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So if we heat up does this mean more rain?
Yes in general. Higher temperatures mean more water vapor in the air.
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Isn’t that evaporative cooling?
When it evaporates, yes. Then it condenses when it falls back as rain. So net even on the latent heat exchange.
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China can put all the particulate matter (which probably helps facilitate rain) in the atmosphere just as long they continue to supply the China-class in this country with cheap goods.
China, specifically the CCP, is bad and do bad things. Not really sure how to fix that.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:04 pm to CrimsonFever
Nobody can deny climate change. If they try, make them take a hike in Arizona, have them look down from on top the mountain and recall how everything around them was once underwater.
However, climate change =\= progressive Marxist societal changes veiled as climate justice.
However, climate change =\= progressive Marxist societal changes veiled as climate justice.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:11 pm to CrimsonFever
I love how the Climate Mafia uses weather as an indicator of "climate change," while at the same time telling me not to use weather to counter their argument.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:15 pm to CrimsonFever
We’re breaking records now but there was record hot and cold temps before our current “climate crisis.” What caused them before, aliens, dinosaur farts, our universe rotating through an excessively hot alternate universe?
I’ll go with dinosaur farts.
I’ll go with dinosaur farts.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:16 pm to homesicktiger
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love how the Climate Mafia uses weather as an indicator of "climate change," while at tbe same time telling me not to use weather to counter their argument.
Just like when the left completely refuses to discuss the margin of error when talking weather and climate predictions.
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